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We ran 100 PSI with Red= line 40 weight.=C2=A0 RX-8 came stock with 110 PSI. Early valves can be dis= mantled=C2=A0 and shimmed to anything you want. RX-8 valves are welded shut= . Most racers have a drawer or box of early valves. Check your local SCCA f= or member help.Lynn E. Hanover In a message dated 11/15/2019 10:36:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary@= lancaironline.net writes: 28? Anyway, thank you all for your replies. Sounds like a 150 psi sensor will b= e the safest. I have no plans to tear down the supposedly brand new Renesis, so for now n= o modifications. Thinking about a before cooler pressure sensor too. I suppose the only (eas= y) option is to drill and tap the oil metering pump supply hole (which I've= already plugged)? I would like to also have a before oil cooler temperature sensor. I guess I= need to find a spot in the oil pan? I suppose a 30 psi sensor is adequate for water pressure (assuming I don't = go with Evans non-pressurized system)? Trying to source sensors, I looked in the places I had purchased them decad= es ago (Newark, DigiKey, Allied) and was dismayed at the availability and p= rices. In my original RV-3 I had used the solid state MPX-5999 with barb fr= om NXP USA.=20 A Google search finally lead me to a posting which led me to Aircraft Spruc= e and a "Swift" pressure sensor. That led me to eBay where there now is a w= ide selection of 5V (amplified) solid state sensors with 1/8-27NPT housings= .=20 These solid state sensors have (amplified) output voltages from 0.5 to 4.5 = volts with a 5 volt supply (they even come in 12V (10-25V) supply version f= or a bit more). Yes, your engine monitor has to subtract (offset) the bottom by 0.5 volts (= 0 psi =3D 0.5 volts). http://www.zenith.aero/forum/topics/swift-solid-state-oil-pressure-sensor https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pressure-transducer-or-sender-Stainless-Steel-for-= oil-fuel-air-water-Multichoice/272759060859?hash=3Ditem3f81b4f97b=E2=93=82m= TKFrDgAsPLl-bZmKbUTKgQ When searching note that oil pressure switches are often called sensors too= . Finn On 11/15/2019 7:36 AM, Bobby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net wrote: Thermal pellet and carb jets with racing beat race regulator. Idle at 28 wa= rm and 88-92 psi at 4800-7000 rpm.?? Bobby?? Sent from my iPhone On Nov 15, 2019, at 2:43 AM, Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com wrote: ???I installed an RX7 rear regulator and shimmed the front reg with 2 washe= rs. Also installed thermal pellet and weber jets in the e-shaft. Average ar= ound 110-115psi during cruise, so I went with an 150psi sensor. https://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/Competition-Eccentric-Shaft-Oil-and-Webe= r-Jet-Kit-ARE103.html https://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/79-11-Rx7-and-Rx8-Increased-Oil-Pressure= -Kit-ARE401.html https://www.atkinsrotary.com/store/86-11-Rx7-and-Rx8-Atkins-Thermal-Pellet-= ARE50.html?category_id=3D1275 - Matt Boiteau On 2019-11-14 11:53:30 PM, Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com wrote: Fin,?? My renesis starts cold at 150 PSI.?? I let it idle at 2200 rpm=20 until after a few minutes it settles to 80 psi (plus).=20 Neil.=20 On 11/15/2019 10:45 AM, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote:=20 > I'm starting to look at engine monitor sensors for my RV-4.=20 >=20 > In his Renesis report, Tracy mentioned 100 psi oil pressures. Not=20 > clear if they dropped after the engine got some hours on it.=20 >=20 > What kind of oil pressures are you seeing?=20 >=20 > Should I go with a 150 psi or a 100 psi pressure sensor?=20 >=20 > Finn=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Homepage:?? http://www.flyrotary.com/=20 > Archive and UnSub:=20 > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html=20 --=20 Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/=20 Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.ht= ml=20 ------=_Part_529346_1695033908.1573837192828 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Any early regulator can be shimmed to over 100 PSI. W= e ran 100 PSI with Redline 40 weight.  RX-8 came stock with 110 PSI. E= arly valves can be dismantled  and shimmed to anything you want. RX-8 = valves are welded shut. Most racers have a drawer or box of early valves. C= heck your local SCCA for member help.
Lynn E. Hanover

In a message dated 11/15/2019 10:36:08 AM Eastern Standard Time, flyrotary@= lancaironline.net writes:

28?

Anyway, thank you al= l for your replies. Sounds like a 150 psi sensor will be the safest.
I have no plans to tear down the supposedly brand new Renesis, so for now = no modifications.

Thinking about a before cooler pressure sensor too= . I suppose the only (easy) option is to drill and tap the oil metering pum= p supply hole (which I've already plugged)?

I would like to also hav= e a before oil cooler temperature sensor. I guess I need to find a spot in = the oil pan?

I suppose a 30 psi sensor is adequate for water pressur= e (assuming I don't go with Evans non-pressurized system)?

Trying to= source sensors, I looked in the places I had purchased them decades ago (N= ewark, DigiKey, Allied) and was dismayed at the availability and prices. In= my original RV-3 I had used the solid state MPX-5999 with barb from NXP US= A.

A Google search finally lead me to a posting which led me to Air= craft Spruce and a "Swift" pressure sensor. That led me to eBay where there= now is a wide selection of 5V (amplified) solid state sensors with 1/8-27N= PT housings.

These solid state sensors have (amplified) output volt= ages from 0.5 to 4.5 volts with a 5 volt supply (they even come in 12V (10-= 25V) supply version for a bit more).
Yes, your engine monitor has to sub= tract (offset) the bottom by 0.5 volts (0 psi =3D 0.5 volts).

http://www.zenith.aero/forum/topics/swift-solid-state-= oil-pressure-sensor

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pressure-transducer-or-sender-Stainless-Steel-for= -oil-fuel-air-water-Multichoice/272759060859?hash=3Ditem3f81b4f97b=E2=93=82= mTKFrDgAsPLl-bZmKbUTKgQ

When searching note that oil pressure sw= itches are often called sensors too.

Finn

On 11/15/2019 7:36 = AM, Bobby J. Hughes = bhughes@qnsi.net wrote:
Thermal pellet and carb jets with racing beat race regulator. I= dle at 28 warm and 88-92 psi at 4800-7000 rpm.??

Bobby??

Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 15, 2019, at 2:43 AM, Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancai= ronline.net> wrote:

???
I installed an RX7 rear regulator and s= himmed the front reg with 2 washers. Also installed thermal pellet and webe= r jets in the e-shaft. Average around 110-115psi during cruise, so I went w= ith an 150psi sensor.

- Matt Boiteau

On 2019-11-14 11:53:30 PM, N= eil Unger 12348ung= @gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Fin,?? My renesis= starts cold at 150 PSI.?? I let it idle at 2200 rpm
until after a few = minutes it settles to 80 psi (plus).

Neil.

On 11/15/2019 10= :45 AM, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote:
> I'm starting to look at = engine monitor sensors for my RV-4.
>
> In his Renesis report= , Tracy mentioned 100 psi oil pressures. Not
> clear if they dropped= after the engine got some hours on it.
>
> What kind of oil = pressures are you seeing?
>
> Should I go with a 150 psi or a= 100 psi pressure sensor?
>
> Finn
>
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