X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=H+OlPNQi c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=OBb77FZj0gOux9oi4aEETw==:117 a=ivo9DYz+79RwUUcBUptMSg==:17 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=K7ySfSCCDxUA:10 a=MeAgGD-zjQ4A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=6qz0rqEmiAkMGkiyOPcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=xvaC3aAJZuzJO1d4:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com" Received: from mail-vk1-f172.google.com ([209.85.221.172] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.14) with ESMTPS id 13164069 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 10:30:08 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.221.172; envelope-from=mattboiteau@gmail.com Received: by mail-vk1-f172.google.com with SMTP id t184so3575781vka.1 for ; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 07:30:09 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:in-reply-to:references :user-agent; bh=j9gm1OoklYpe3e6N+MfcNWkU8N1SaYQ2vy3Yje+j1UU=; b=VP05iKnY7W1uxqS5znovzFxMC7yixx+LzQmVSHhbaidDoSm+KSRhDmbY7Pd2fG0n2u Np2xjMh7ZwRrSNvyV1A8YDkN8HJ0kKzNuO6tISVlvkKZum+Bsk3zbQtnItpZ4ezuCKqr kzSX9S6hfGOP0/9S3ttf4qQx3n3gzzDZWkEImIUPqwkKPi/xooACms2uvCbEQedPlRcJ xfB40/xxO9clDxQhU8Kd0iz0NpVKDsZWcJol3q5UQyUJ2+tZmqrEncMhIok4ZUcbRMwF sYuwU1hJJHhELlB/3XgUWEuo1EEU5yiusYOm4zkvW33sMMICXMF3iXb3iB8n94+N60l1 U9iQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to :in-reply-to:references:user-agent; bh=j9gm1OoklYpe3e6N+MfcNWkU8N1SaYQ2vy3Yje+j1UU=; b=pzpdJ4ewWXnpdxkeojPp5FNaB7EyE4pUI7UR30gO44DrAcGGe9VJFDfFJHDI7sB14g sO6KvQ2PcF71adKVpLVjAaXc7jqwu4Z8aP5Uuji4ZK4WpybgwudZmq2WiWRoUaAa/Gdc UhM5RhFsJT6cQynlzlxltf9uFuA85dVtOsjM0qtRg8odqraMopgIcnUOI30s1/yerEXf 0/QhGqXQouleOu+wgzFAlm8fGlsn2/b8z53el/zzW1BYHgGZEpA1xRoPBOTD5g9oIzzr 53K2XHk2slAgCI3f5zrFgyJf8O3J+dGh36FkF/bNQ6bL18HtMp3SclKEGH3eS7fNCFHl Hx3A== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAXIb8+07J4w4QMjQ++yDugmkeuTfPi9HTM2Siv+a9eWE1zaUi0d nnCYdxsMeQ/3HzAJu3KPsF2/d9sN+V7VoA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqwtEVX4zxQnC0UIFm4Tsaijdt+SOSEvwKRIyk7LQ/WpY8QWUH3oSEnM7+UHQEwz35sOPJrYaw== X-Received: by 2002:a1f:3258:: with SMTP id y85mr18275222vky.7.1573486190717; Mon, 11 Nov 2019 07:29:50 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [192.168.0.151] ([71.214.35.56]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m206sm2057522vkm.22.2019.11.11.07.29.49 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 11 Nov 2019 07:29:50 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_5939613.516526624588" MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Mon, 11 Nov 2019 10:29:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Exhaust setups To: "Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com" In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Mailbird/2.5.43.0 X-Mailbird-ID: b377e2f6-9d9a-4e93-85b7-998e6ce3df5c@getmailbird.com ------=_NextPart_5939613.516526624588 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes more or less like the coax muffler. Instead of drilling a few holes her= e and there, I bought a perforated sheet and welded it into a tube. I wante= d to have it open on both ends, to create a vacuum and help suck the air ou= t of the cowl. But right now to make flights enjoyable, I might close up th= e ends and see how that works. Is anyone running a coax muffler ? Because it's extremely loud in my case. I did buy the=C2=A0Aero Exhaust AT2525XL and it worked great while doing al= l my ground testing, but the 6" outer shell was just to big to fit under th= e plane. Sadly I brought it back home to Canada and haven't flown with it y= et here in FL. I'll pack it in my suitcase next trip down. The racing beat presilencer is suppose to be good. I believe it has stainle= ss steel wool inside and maybe ceramic mat over that. For fun I stuffed cer= amic mat into the 4" pipe and it did quite things down. Except with the 4" = tube being open at both ends, it sucked it out. Right now I'm trying to sou= rce some high temp ss fiber mat to first wrap the pipe, then wrap the ceram= ic over that, then close up both ends. 1.5minutes into the take off the EGT probe right before the 4" pipe is 1700= F. =C2=A0 (EGT1 =3D 1768F, EGT2=3D 1819F) - Matt Boiteau On 2019-11-11 5:19:37 AM, Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com <= flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Matt: So the setup for your exhaust, is more or less the one that Paul Lamar suggest in his forum, 2 years or so ago.? The coax muffler ? Le Roux Breytenbach On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 5:38 AM Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com wrote: > > What are you guys running for exhaust? The thing is stupid loud and can b= arely talk on radio. Headset is LightSpeed wireless Tango's. Their ANR does= not work well with the pitch of the rotary. Will try a Bose headset tomorr= ow. > > I have 2.5" exhaust leaving the cowl. (ex1.jpg) It comes down and centers= the bottom of the plane into a 4" outer pipe. (ex2.jpg) The 4" outer pipe = (5ft long) is open to the free air and exits behind the rear bulkhead. The = 2.5" converts to a 3ft long perforated pipe (ex3.jpg) and exits inside the = 4" outer pipe. For fun, I filled it full of ceramic fiber insulation mat, w= hich did help a little until it blew all out. > > > - Matt Boiteau > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.= html -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.ht= ml ------=_NextPart_5939613.516526624588 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Is anyone running a coax muffler ? Because it's extrem= ely loud in my case.

I did buy the Aero Exhaust AT2525XL and it worked great w= hile doing all my ground testing, but the 6" outer shell was just to big to= fit under the plane. Sadly I brought it back home to Canada and haven't fl= own with it yet here in FL. I'll pack it in my suitcase next trip down.

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The racing beat = presilencer is suppose to be good. I= believe it has stainless steel wool inside and maybe ceramic mat over that= . For fun I stuffed ceramic mat into the 4" pipe and it did quite things do= wn. Except with the 4" tube being open at both ends, it sucked it out. Righ= t now I'm trying to source some high temp ss fiber mat to first wrap the pi= pe, then wrap the ceramic over that, then close up both ends.
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1.5minutes into t= he take off the EGT probe right before the 4" pipe is 1700F.   (EGT1 = =3D 1768F, EGT2=3D 1819F)

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On 2019-11-11 5:19:37 AM,= Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironlin= e.net> wrote:

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