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I'm getting sick of cleaning Hylmor on the ori= ngs, so I may scrape it next. I found Crisco works very well on the rotors = to keep things in place. - Matt Boiteau On 2019-10-02 8:42:25 PM, Rob McMillan robmcmillanpls@gmail.com wrote: Matt, where are=C2=A0you located? On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 2:35 PM Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com wrote: The corner seal broke in 2, and the center button took a spin out. Not sure= what happen when rebuilding it. Took time and everything went together wel= l. Apex seals are all good, rotor housing and iron look fine. 2008 rx8 auto 6 port were covered with Devcon steel putty. Not completely f= lush to iron surface, left indented 1/8" down. I think I'm going to get a used JDM 4port engine and re-use the front\rear = rotors and counter=C2=A0balance=C2=A0only. Keep my highpower=C2=A0eshaft (i= f there is even a different in eshafts between 6port and 4port). I may have= to press in new rotor bearings for the high power (yellows) Lots to think = about. - Matt Boiteau On 2019-10-02 3:56:56 PM, Le Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com <= flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: Hi Matt- Sorry to hear about your problems.You said that the front rotar is= toast.Can you be more specific in the looks of the front rotar please.You = mentioned that you have a p port intake.The old side intakes in the centre = and end plates did you fill it up with some sort of fillermaterial? Get Outlook for iOS From: Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of = Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:59 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rebuilt and stuck apex seal It was from the Rotary Aviation master rebuild kit for RX8, so OEM 2 piece.= Not sure if I re-installed it wrong or put in the wrong side seal, or if i= t was weak from the overheating previously. Not sure, lots of different rea= sons why it could of happened. Looking at getting rid of the RA super seals and going back to stock OEM ap= ex seals and side seals by the letter instead of cutting them. Only need 1 = rotor, but by the time you add everything up, it's almost cheaper to buy an= engine and just re-use the rotors. - Matt Boiteau On 2019-10-02 8:49:31 AM, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com wrote: Hi Matt.=20 Sorry to hear of your setback.=20 I to would have been flying many years ago If had gone the Lyc path.=20 But I am finally in Phase 1 after 13 years and its looking good.=20 Cheers=20 Steve=20 > On 2 Oct 2019, at 7:57 pm, Jeff Whaley jwhaley@datacast.com wrote:=20 >=20 > Hi Matt, sorry to hear about your troubles and the broken corner seal. Wa= s it the "solid" type or the one with a rubber insert?=20 > I went the solid type from Atkins Rotary on my last rebuild. https://www.= atkinsrotary.com/store/86-95-Rx7-2mm-Solid-Corner-Seal-Set-ARE88.html=20 > Jeff=20 >=20 > Corner seal broke in two. Rotor housing looks good, apex seals look good,= but front rotor is toast. I could of been flying a few years ago, if I did= n't go down this Rotary path....=20 >=20 > - Matt Boiteau=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > --=20 > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/=20 > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.= html=20 --=20 Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/=20 Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.ht= ml=20 -- Homepage:=C2=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub:=C2=A0 =C2=A0http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyro= tary/List.html ------=_Part_2787309_2007437383.1570067632226 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
or Vaseline

Rich

In a message dated 10/2/2019 8:27:47 PM Central Standard Time, flyrotary@la= ncaironline.net writes:

Williston, FL
32696

Only unti= l the 13th, then I'll head back home to Canada. 

Thanks Lynn for the details. I'm getting sick of cleaning Hylmor on th= e orings, so I may scrape it next. I found Crisco works very well on the ro= tors to keep things in place.

- Matt Boiteau

On 2019-10-02 8:42:25 PM, Ro= b McMillan robmcmillanpls@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancai= ronline.net> wrote:

Matt, where are you located?

On Wed, Oct 2, 2019, 2:3= 5 PM Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
The corner seal broke in 2, and the center button took= a spin out. Not sure what happen when rebuilding it. Took time and everyth= ing went together well. Apex seals are all good, rotor housing and iron loo= k fine.

2008 rx8 auto 6 port were = covered with Devcon steel putty. Not completely flush to iron surface, left= indented 1/8" down.

I think I'm going to get a used = JDM 4port engine and re-use the front\rear rotors and counter <= span style=3D"font-size: 13.3333px; line-height: 20px;">balance only. Keep my highpower eshaft = (if there is even a different in eshafts between 6port and 4port). I may ha= ve to press in new rotor bearings for the high power (yellows) Lots to thin= k about.

- Matt Boiteau

On 2019-10-02 3:56:56 PM, Le= Roux Breytenbach breytenbachleroux@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hi Matt- Sorry to hear about your problems.Y= ou said that the front rotar is toast.Can you be more specific in the looks= of the front rotar please.
You mentioned that you have a p port intake.= The old side intakes in the centre and end plates did you fill it up with s= ome sort of fillermaterial?


From: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> on behalf of Matt Boiteau mattboiteau@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironlin= e.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 2, 2019 6:59 PM<= br>To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Rebuilt and stuck apex seal

It was from the R= otary Aviation master rebuild kit for RX8, so OEM 2 piece. Not sure if I re= -installed it wrong or put in the wrong side seal, or if it was weak from t= he overheating previously. Not sure, lots of different reasons why it could= of happened.

Looking at getting rid of the RA super seals and going= back to stock OEM apex seals and side seals by the letter instead of cutti= ng them. Only need 1 rotor, but by the time you add everything up, it's alm= ost cheaper to buy an engine and just re-use the rotors.

- Matt Boiteau

On 2019-10-02 8:49:31 AM, St= ephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hi Matt.
Sorr= y to hear of your setback.
I to would have been flying many years ago I= f had gone the Lyc path.
But I am finally in Phase 1 after 13 years and= its looking good.

Cheers

Steve

> On 2 Oct 2019,= at 7:57 pm, Jeff Whaley jwhaley@datacast.com wrote:
>= ;
> Hi Matt, sorry to hear about your troubles and the broken corner= seal. Was it the "solid" type or the one with a rubber insert?
> I = went the solid type from Atkins Rotary on my last rebuild. https://www.atkinsrotary.c= om/store/86-95-Rx7-2mm-Solid-Corner-Seal-Set-ARE88.html
> Jeff <= br>>
> Corner seal broke in two. Rotor housing looks good, apex s= eals look good, but front rotor is toast. I could of been flying a few year= s ago, if I didn't go down this Rotary path....
>
> - Matt Bo= iteau
>
>
>
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> Homepage: ht= tp://www.flyrotary.com/
> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/L= ist.html


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