X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.3 cv=JejCUnCV c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=CJPXSJsgTIwo90TrqDPtZQ==:117 a=jpOVt7BSZ2e4Z31A5e1TngXxSK0=:19 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=BaKdtXMH_38A:10 a=E5NmQfObTbMA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=qBFUcJ2_AAAA:8 a=U6X_2EJcAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=2Ayg84MaTWL0d-KX5d4A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=DafdoAFNBw4A:10 a=gA6IeH5FQcgA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=Vm0cWTPhOB9KMf4i1J8A:9 a=uTOXZibKoLoJaxc2:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=5YQ6H4ZxyGn-KoBYtt8s:22 a=cp47PM4wlqr5L9-lCGO5:22 a=nV98HLy25BINaCVz_2IH:22 From: "William Schertz wschertz343@gmail.com" Received: from mail-it1-f170.google.com ([209.85.166.170] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.12) with ESMTPS id 12588099 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 25 May 2019 14:18:55 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.166.170; envelope-from=wschertz343@gmail.com Received: by mail-it1-f170.google.com with SMTP id m3so20988975itl.1 for ; Sat, 25 May 2019 11:18:55 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=AJ4KpWjlMpDg5bxSq49kysfgt8r1G6TalN37wSvgzfE=; b=AItDmyB29TiA744bo/UbCxAvbhcXN6ZI0mDqI/q2sgKk7zzrmVji002K2mXA0c4E9z +1Wq7WI3f22V/2CIOqiuQc/+d3ufM8vHaidUbN5IppwFjfRzZTc9Q072rliPB/FgnerC 3a5/RD2pnvMdvFCps9aN0kT1OnTzasYJ2VWUlwj/e/71yCL+X14CoegI4il7Ez6T5oNQ EZvbVbocdc5upoSFZ5dk2mLbRd7SqXPPfJuJAjWEzndeq8PSUwemcdKcJ3lMTSexLp5A G42NGf+jccQZRc4G/sfGGReBdCnxqGD7hkFkBtCj5l63Kw682BUJNT36Pjj5c+rgMAfc Cagg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=AJ4KpWjlMpDg5bxSq49kysfgt8r1G6TalN37wSvgzfE=; b=Rh1YB4X9niMFnkbUlfjY0EMDy6gj+CTnZXSCD1gYGoSxhoeYpRQvDXRO21TcfnO52d k47o/xyIbPSs/5KkD/TVyLpiGHQXirgQrAbp1z0Oaj+rh/07mnkaaEDGq4MQ6vEYHtp7 Cr+wAsYbdCHgyHgx4AinM2DAuh0QaT5XU/HzYpzcA2NFbleGLcaORhs4yC8ESxfsXhdo X+k2K2iHu6QaiZncVvza5NyIIkmzq+qGD5v2U0PARW3kZ4dR7hyKOEhs2EiSQ9/tcni7 6b46VuxV7pA0SRxzI/gGoimeouHSO31kKGssrZs8ooMxbbuiHz5gswkW5vn9ONY404Ib nxVg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAUAG/sD++qlMtkwHMQSKvb2ATw5EjhWXR2HIl+9Uv4e2JG6EtCd G8nmQxHhbdwZxaMVwwEsRhmXc4JGZsYrI+bPzB45Ig== X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxUERnGYR0+N86ypr18P0u8eTPvO8F1YJt7Kg1G5d1dHj/Dixv4UgZmBZTh/wm9Iwi87u5O260t6/A6+MtjaR8= X-Received: by 2002:a24:7345:: with SMTP id y66mr21994918itb.23.1558808317491; Sat, 25 May 2019 11:18:37 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Sat, 25 May 2019 12:18:11 -0600 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: How to make a program change to my EC3? To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000097d8e0589ba58f4" --000000000000097d8e0589ba58f4 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I had an EC-2, and donated my plane to the local EAA chapter who sold it to another user, so I no longer have the manual, but I believe it had a programming option for advancing the timing when the engine is running, so why not RETARD the timing mechanically and then use the advance system to bring it forward when running? On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 8:36 AM Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Another option would be the MegaSquirt/MicroSquirt family of controllers. > Seems to be pretty mature tech, and at least in the case of the > MicroSquirt, a very compact and affordable package. > > Charlie > > On 5/25/2019 9:28 AM, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote: > > Tracy suggested I look into https://speeduino.com/wiki/index.php/Speeduino > > Sounds like a low-cost solution. But would require hardware changes and > programming. > > Finn > > On 5/25/2019 9:59 AM, Sam Hoskins sam.hoskins@gmail.com wrote: > > I have an EC3 installed in my O-200 powered Quickie Q-200 > . I was wondering if anyone might have > any suggestions.?? I need a simple (famous last words) programming change > and was wondering if anyone might have any idea how I might do this. > > The problem is, the spark is not retarded during starting and all too > often I get a nasty kickback. Doesn't happen all the time, but it still > occurs.?? I have figured out that first running the starter without the > ignition turned on seems to "loosen up" the engine and I have a better > chance. This kickback has resulted in damage to the starter bearing and I > have returned it to B&C for repairs. > > The circuit hoard has two main chips which are removable. The "A" side is > the main controller for normal operations and the "B" side is the redundant > side.?? > > Is there any someone could figure out what programming language was used, > then modify it a bit? > > Tracy programmed Lyn French's controller to retard the spark during > starting, so I know it can be done. > > If I can't make this programming change, I'll have to spend $3,000 - > 5,000, installing another system, such as SDS, so I'm making a last ditch > attempt.?? I would appreciate your thoughts. > > Thanks. > > Sam > > > > > > ------------------------------ > [image: Avast logo] > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > www.avast.com > > <#m_-8542942413399644492_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > --000000000000097d8e0589ba58f4 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I had an EC-2, and donated my plane to the local EAA chapt= er who sold it to another user, so I no longer have the manual, but I belie= ve it had a programming option for advancing the timing when the engine is = running, so why not RETARD the timing mechanically and then use the advance= system to bring it forward when running?

On Sat, May 25, 2019 at 8:36 AM Ch= arlie England ceengland7@gmail.com<= /a> <flyrotary@lancaironl= ine.net> wrote:
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Another opti= on would be the MegaSquirt/MicroSquirt family of controllers. Seems to be pretty mature tech, and at least in the case of the MicroSquirt, a very compact and affordable package.

Charlie

On 5/25/2019 9:28 AM, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net wrote:
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Tracy sugg= ested I look into https://speeduino.com/wiki/index.php/Speeduino

Sounds like a low-cost solution. But would require hardware changes and programming.

Finn

On 5/25/2019 9:59 AM, Sam Hoskins sam.hoskins@gmail.com wrote:
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I have an EC3 installed in my O-200 powered Quickie Q-200. I was wondering if anyone might have any suggestions.?? I need a simple (famous last words) programming change and was wondering if anyone might have any idea how I might do this.

The problem is, the spark is not retarded during starting and all too often I get a nasty kickback. Doesn't happen al= l the time, but it still occurs.?? I have figured out that first running the starter without the ignition turned on seems to "loosen up" the engine and I have a better c= hance. This kickback has resulted in damage to the starter bearing and I have returned it to B&C for repairs.

The circuit hoard has two main chips which are removable. The "A" side is the main controller for normal operat= ions and the "B" side is the redundant side.??

Is there any someone could figure out what programming language was used, then modify it a bit?

Tracy programmed Lyn French's controller to retard the spark during starting, so I know it can be done.

If I can't make this programming change, I'll have t= o spend $3,000 - 5,000, installing another system, such as SDS, so I'm making a last ditch attempt.?? I would appreciate your thoughts.

Thanks.

Sam





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