X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=UschDK4B c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=auZFhOzWS5H0Xlzol9Q3ww==:117 a=55z/sxGcUIPVrBMYBb4HRw==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=_Z_nqdSeG58A:10 a=JHtHm7312UAA:10 a=UKPAHat8AAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=zzB0G7x5p4wWbqWktlQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=Fc6xXSS-RxGHxrvp76Qp:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pf1-f182.google.com ([209.85.210.182] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.9) with ESMTPS id 11865252 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 19:52:30 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.182; envelope-from=12348ung@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf1-f182.google.com with SMTP id v76-v6so613858pfa.5 for ; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 16:52:31 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=IpGnPEbsC4EzMwZ32229UuXLrmhtwAdGebrG5TynGmU=; b=Xb9ysZNprFRQds3Pq8qelZZxlqP7N0L6d0YfH2SFyspzj38dKVBFrUo64RX6HYGOBd 5R+QgVUMDU9E+VGfSrZAnNZjhyc71d2ZvdInugtKJMJNqF8bYSIioiKr/JCa4PmDbFbD iNTtzLMY2NnIm5mIFPQvSnr+EmkREmrlvxjBu35uFmBFnWHzQ6evFI3Y0PlXV662+7XY MfrIvwCwbZwxJ6mPffqocCKlv9XCzJ0SAbs9tp2AD9PqPFmL4qDRcnNR1zAiE222newZ u1ot9xbWxbOHmVve0bL/NaCe/kgx27DIdoeQ4E6lGvRGKH20++HedEp3Pda6pRzaLpnj xkTg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=IpGnPEbsC4EzMwZ32229UuXLrmhtwAdGebrG5TynGmU=; b=kPpSgLajTz3l9XV9uF/eZSn16iq0rVgUmWZzT+TukhmBsmvCHXmjuOMWO4gfKMAxlO jvWXuiYGt8yK81VxXxFBsnzI4yi/XpRgJRQmEvI17nvj6ItoyT6iM1alcsZ8RO4dNbYR XUXny17d08yKsSbDAoxG2uuozWkIoM8dy2Pf4zAIdKnZhUW5A+fWpAYH6ZD+CtkdHTFF PMXeYKMso15bl3WyqJgiVMZfH4w8q7Frt/EoTYIzPHQBJnnOUZQBoz/BW30RoknG+jEG r0uZIkmLCbPR3mnPqlPbRZbRXT9aJ3guV47U6LHcWY5x4Us7DxvBt75lT2yQiKC4Ok3L 9+PA== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gJ5eHM22E9u1uWRfWIwg9hrlR6BzG2r35FWsKRGBEkZ61QREf2E Huu5RxXjgBtF7k6D9ziZZigMDmRp X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5ewNLrqmBV4JBxuUQJu2KwChUmTECoX4g9Pp8hXhoDEYkDLr0oiXz/4nPPsz34qjaa3SAT6pw== X-Received: by 2002:a65:55ca:: with SMTP id k10mr15469668pgs.448.1541983933007; Sun, 11 Nov 2018 16:52:13 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <12348ung@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.0.103] ([103.198.24.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h17-v6sm19381475pfj.125.2018.11.11.16.52.10 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 11 Nov 2018 16:52:11 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: 1mm thrust washer To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <462501b6-9dda-63e9-1411-cbf1b1d6e51b@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 12 Nov 2018 11:52:08 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Bobby,                        Sorry I misunderstood you.  By all means contact Randy as he may be able to fit you in.  He has a complete reduction drive of mine there to measure,  and certainly has the machinery to make same. Neil. On 11/12/2018 7:41 AM, Bobby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net wrote: > Neil > > I was asking if Randy would consider making the 1mm washer mounting cup. I have a chip detector but removed it due to the 1mm washer / shaft wear creating fuzz every few hours and setting off an alert. I also measure the gearbox oil temp output. > > Bobby > > Sent from my iPad > >> On Nov 11, 2018, at 3:15 PM, Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com wrote: >> >> Bobby, >> >>                      Another way is what I did, was to put a temp sensor in the pSRU which will let you know if all is not well with elevated temps. This is standard in heavy trucks, One in the gear box, and one each in both diffs. Simple and effective. >> >> Neil. >> >> >>> On 11/12/2018 6:58 AM, Neil Unger wrote: >>> Bobby, >>> >>>                      I put a magnet in the return line to catch any metal, but only got the "fuzz" you are talking about so simply removed it. >>> >>> Will discuss with Randy re stocking a chip detector. That will be his commercial decision. >>> >>> Neil. >>> >>> >>>> On 11/12/2018 3:29 AM, Bobby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net wrote: >>>> Neil, >>>> >>>> That should work. I believe Tracy has suggested the same solution. It would allow for replacing the 1mm washer if needed. I’m thinking aluminum instead of steel to minimize any wear on the washer outer edge if it rotated. I would like to start using my gearbox chip detector again. The 1mm washer shaft contact caused enough fuzz to activate it every few hours so I removed it. Would this be an item Randy Kempf would consider supplying? We need four in Austin TX and I’m sure others would retrofit if the part was available. The cup OD would need to increased but I think we have plenty of room to accommodate modification. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> Bobby >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>>> On Nov 10, 2018, at 4:01 PM, Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Bobby, >>>>> >>>>> Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â  Tried my bearing blokes with no joy, over that size they are all 1.5mm. There is another way however if there is room. I suggest a small alloy (or steel) "cup" with mounting flanges like the washer you want, except in the middle the 1mm washer fits flat against the mounting plate as usual, and the cup then tapers upwards (after the 1mm thick retaining hole at the bottom ) and out slightly (for say another 3mm?) to prevent the 1mm thrust washer to "jump out of bed" and moving sideways. If it does move forward the taper will force it back into place when the load comes on again. My $0.02 worth, >>>>> >>>>> Neil. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>>>  -- >>>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html