X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=UschDK4B c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=0T96ifFQf8owWxZMDraBOA==:117 a=55z/sxGcUIPVrBMYBb4HRw==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=_Z_nqdSeG58A:10 a=JHtHm7312UAA:10 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=hOpmn2quAAAA:8 a=on22okXAAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=BJ-GeA9vCxvwYD4HJvkA:9 a=Br1Xw_fc1tH8tUFl:21 a=b2QBCMCHwJNycYt1:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=S50rnUa8yRbNnh2hyxzf:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=GyA-uvUxXSCciAkwuKQO:22 a=NPqpj5bUEVj9vR1HIonK:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pl1-f172.google.com ([209.85.214.172] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.9) with ESMTPS id 11851793 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 07 Nov 2018 15:02:17 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.172; envelope-from=12348ung@gmail.com Received: by mail-pl1-f172.google.com with SMTP id n4-v6so8350103plp.2 for ; Wed, 07 Nov 2018 12:02:18 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=Gb+xjiFevFXCXYZ3uR7LsDscjXP7y9OduZcYEXuFNhI=; b=eGCa4sywsdMOTktlXujIhcZ4AFVVpRZmYr60pb37aRSKq1IAfGGNRrf8um2are7mD0 qgH1EurFFHtSAoEsZUxJw+1aGVqObqSTXZ+ugZsdGkOYniDm5Rszfrcig+sqLzJLBOTk OSrp4cl9i58KLGkH8Mgjg0tio3yCCkIVspRuwCHM2fMjW9UTMtVRiuJkno3I5bSJMtuo efBGHydOg4SLzJCEEnSOMLIF5wXp+qtJxyGzzqwR2/pKEjRbE9WAGBrmpUcefPvi2KiX Rb/+AdRDqvxVzus8JUBstA9bArYZpTEUPehE0G52D8VsVd9eTi7Q5k4MiOqx9WpBR04D 34Qw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=Gb+xjiFevFXCXYZ3uR7LsDscjXP7y9OduZcYEXuFNhI=; b=t5Qgc8+id07k3MQWVxu+6UG+ONxEWfFZ7py86c+87Ue5SYnXbgJni65k9rOz9z8960 Vz6aFOY5oXFSpJ7/4B5vG+7kcrUHSNVlLvLk2IBkI0d9lca/RO9JQEU6M1GqwS/+Q3ho OIWI1E/qKVhyB+8yv5Ly6WD+qsQfvmV5A7xQOyImgrqnXPRqeuDBJTb0fr0G7mqndj7c tGhuwSXnhoFCS9BH+p0Z5QBuOv7ceVAjZTHWXi034C6RabMn0cycNr/p7tICPivmOU4M /0IGw1UbA9ps3fujtZMeTlaUv5Cpin1liWZibpjtKp1tvCiqT0ztyjhOfTzg9DOKY3k2 rjQg== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gIot9BaZfl4DV385IX/ShCnw/MFlZjkpzfi+ViU656MyLWihJYR VjsaqwNQPNn2v1FD+or4qprKGChi X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5e9ir/Opbf8thYt/UPpCzPrFRU/ENtCYtGfVXmNdr2rE3U8HX4YL7wZvvxf9rDl7cTpdp7cIA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:292b:: with SMTP id g40-v6mr1512531plb.279.1541620919184; Wed, 07 Nov 2018 12:01:59 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: <12348ung@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.0.103] ([103.198.24.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f6-v6sm1781736pfg.128.2018.11.07.12.01.56 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 07 Nov 2018 12:01:57 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Flexplare Replacement To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <068cad3b-ad40-e02b-0481-974d030834e4@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2018 07:01:54 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US joe,                   Just unbolt the old flex drive, and bolt mine on. Neil Unger. On 11/7/2018 9:10 PM, Joseph Berki jskmberki@windstream.net wrote: > Neil, > > Are there any modifications to the RD-1C hardware using your solution? > > Joe Berki > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rotary motors in aircraft > Sent: Tuesday, November 6, 2018 8:02 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Flexplare Replacement > > Marc, > > Attached photo is of the original mounted on my engine, The unit shown has urethane as the "flex" which lasted about 5 hours and the spacer is the original without excess material milled off for lightness. Input shaft is Tracy's whereas mine is one piece and a lot dearer!! Basically as shown the plate with the vulcanised drive block is bolted through the spacer and flexplate onto the e shaft as shown and is lighter than Tracy's but by how much I forget. Made specifically to retrofit all Tracy's reduction drives. > > Neil Unger. > > > On 11/7/2018 10:12 AM, Marc Wiese cardmarc@charter.net wrote: >> Neil, >> Can I see a sketch of how it all fits together front to back? >> Marc >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2018 3:28 PM >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Flexplare Replacement >> >> Joe, There is another way which is my cushion drive (attached) which will cost approx $500 USD plus freight with the current exchange rate. Main cost is the splined drive block so that it matches up with Tracy's splined input shaft. The photo shows the 2 parts of the unit, spacer and splined cushion drive, which bolt direct onto the e shaft with the normal flexplate in between. Uses the normal flexplate with no strain whatever on the flexplate. Your money and your decision!! >> >> Neil Unger >> >> >> On 11/7/2018 6:06 AM, Jeff Whaley jwhaley@datacast.com wrote: >>> Hi Joe, I believe there are two ways you can go, though I don't have part numbers or exact details for you: >>> 1) Tracy's Method: Use an aluminum flywheel directly, including the center spline coupling - this eliminates the damper plate and the need to drill holes. The catch is the spline does not match the original RD1-C prop shaft spline. >>> 2) Dave Leonard's Method: Use an aluminum flywheel, no center spline, mount the damper plate, remove material from one face to adjust ring gear position relative to starter. >>> A quick search of the list should get you more info as it was discussed lately ... >>> Jeff >>> >>> I have been looking at various flywheels for possible candidate replacement. >>> >>> I thought the aluminum units would provide the least amount of weight gain. >>> >>> I noticed that there are a lot of holes in these units including the replaceable friction area with many screw holes. >>> >>> I was under the impression that the holes in the flexplate promoted stress cracks. >>> >>> These flywheels however may have sufficient material to counteract the stress potential. >>> >>> Can someone provide a brand or part number that is acceptable? >>> >>> I believe that the additional machining to modify one of these flywheels is the holes for the torsional damper. >>> >>> Thanks for any help. >>> >>> >>> >>> Joe Berki >>> >>> -- >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html