X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=L4JfeKb8 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=fRobNB4176/1vJkX6jXp/g==:117 a=55z/sxGcUIPVrBMYBb4HRw==:17 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=_Z_nqdSeG58A:10 a=smKx5t2vBNcA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=1Z22Zg53U4hxJAGoBF0A:9 a=pILNOxqGKmIA:10 a=4PR2P7QzAAAA:8 a=vDbpIsqo11XxhTqdzSsA:9 a=N3pybr7Ra2tw-JIC:21 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=S50rnUa8yRbNnh2hyxzf:22 a=4dqwQCo7Po2mVW515mGf:22 From: "Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pf1-f170.google.com ([209.85.210.170] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.8) with ESMTPS id 11823422 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 16:01:20 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.210.170; envelope-from=12348ung@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf1-f170.google.com with SMTP id g21-v6so6390361pfi.7 for ; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:01:20 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language; bh=dUPHbbSbrHdMvd7AjMj+ta9fVFTtiOeHe7inaZUm8CY=; b=KZ7UymX9sRjHhv5b+s+9Zl5FRBQJGT7Nj2pIsdNx2eY5JoHR5rjo7ewMFVcD4nj874 xSAXim3ssTUuFBhqyJ2gbPo9EeryRJ6C0nphT78Ry54P6elYYi9/eJ9tI8dzmb4PG5ld XTmqXmRRLOCD5MeqUjwPRjdvuk9pI15XxVwpbkAEzur6ifoybzzsIZlx+XvU+EBovuJv qHQ3t3ifTgI7DLx621IBR5wtBcRHUySAKWP0wU0PSXSEqDG3258O25yAvf0nbxs6NMd8 uOXmRNNt1BckSE7jbmDIA/S4YZDyCssdWTgMyf/oxCF+JEn3aJ6quyfi10ZW27Ts6PpA JtNw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=dUPHbbSbrHdMvd7AjMj+ta9fVFTtiOeHe7inaZUm8CY=; b=IFcYQogyHf/gNoiUnZhKLkMU2gnC8651tJdx3mNMmWz8eYfoNvcBWeGiHVxQLClrAc 3Ks1qQTWRYpNfwND0UGznIdDyC8TePRRxg6fJeRgJWxLBrbms4FgYQwwoLFh2F3kbqLk dr49FWRdCJMxmkrPkoWZTdmmhFtwWqw71UDVLGp0a3ASZAMoIgQPqnSE9f5ZsGebIClx 4GeYSbnFjyQWn5x2frdWu6bKT/sodmOD2eVE+8i3Z+03mmL2mpGosRWWt15hCB01FHj0 IrqKs1SiXj+SYVxpUfActGRSBQ0S4DvXAMfdqglaJ7FxZUw/Q0gHNmoDdFJcFcg0ChKy kL4Q== X-Gm-Message-State: AGRZ1gKordozq4/EOnVFZAsZQpQ+VzFCJ9yuu4DLM5eS3UVd8WtnAbSY GlzyPCxZiJ5aM0odd/oJSmlXylwZ X-Google-Smtp-Source: AJdET5e44f55QlYP05Rj6ywMcpeNoPcY5GQZcQ4nTNgYR/AOGgPZy/LpGJvZ6O99b8dtytm98Y+hFA== X-Received: by 2002:aa7:8546:: with SMTP id y6-v6mr109382pfn.83.1540929662233; Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:01:02 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <12348ung@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.0.103] ([103.198.24.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 64-v6sm55141966pfq.10.2018.10.30.13.00.59 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 30 Oct 2018 13:01:01 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Flexplate replacement To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <9f1382de-0d10-157c-e985-be4669228c9f@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2018 07:00:57 +1100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------07746601AB6A5FFE96912F0B" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------07746601AB6A5FFE96912F0B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Joe,  I have kept quiet as I have a conflict of interest, in I sell another redrive that has a completely different cushion drive that does not use the flexplate at all.  It fits tracys reduction drive as well and bolts direct onto the e shaft and has a vulcanised rubber bushing to get the flex.  Sadly it is not cheap which embarrasses me, but such are the machining costs.It is listed on the rotarpower site.  Neil On 10/31/2018 4:31 AM, Joseph Berki jskmberki@windstream.net wrote: > > I have tried to search the archives and found part of the story. > > I  think it will take a while to find all of the emails. > > Found pics of Dave’s broken flexplate. > > The pics of Dave’s flywheel are very disturbing. > > It appears that the destructive stresses occur between the > counterweight bolt circle and the torsional damper bolt circle. > > If a good flexplate could be modified to strengthen the areas could > this be a fix? > > Clean the flexplate  in the area of the bolt circles and perform a > layup of carbon fiber on both sides. > > A layer of Eglass would be placed between the carbon and steel > flexplate to prevent galvanic reaction. > > The mounting plate for the RD-1C would have to be shimmed the > thickness of the carbon fiber. > > Has anyone thought about this? > > Joe Berki > --------------07746601AB6A5FFE96912F0B Content-Type: text/html; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Joe,  I have kept quiet as I have a conflict of interest, in I sell another redrive that has a completely different cushion drive that does not use the flexplate at all.  It fits tracys reduction drive as well and bolts direct onto the e shaft and has a vulcanised rubber bushing to get the flex.  Sadly it is not cheap which embarrasses me, but such are the machining costs.It is listed on the rotarpower site.  Neil


On 10/31/2018 4:31 AM, Joseph Berki jskmberki@windstream.net wrote:

I have tried to search the archives and found part of the story.

I  think it will take a while to find all of the emails.

Found pics of Dave’s broken flexplate.

The pics of Dave’s flywheel are very disturbing. 

It appears that the destructive stresses occur between the counterweight bolt circle and the torsional damper bolt circle. 

If a good flexplate could be modified to strengthen the areas could this be a fix?

Clean the flexplate  in the area of the bolt circles and perform a layup of carbon fiber on both sides.

A layer of Eglass would be placed between the carbon and steel flexplate to prevent galvanic reaction.

The mounting plate for the RD-1C would have to be shimmed the thickness of the carbon fiber.

Has anyone thought about this?

Joe Berki


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