X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=L4JfeKb8 c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=2Ntj8PE4bkEX2ZZ3+4RpbQ==:117 a=z5L9EAaXgGRAepH6lFDjcw==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=smKx5t2vBNcA:10 a=B51Z6MqnjM4A:10 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=B8TTwMl-ovFYgWyBrWEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=V1RqZcJiwoSSr-b2WK4A:9 a=a6DNSf08VgYoOkDi:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=S50rnUa8yRbNnh2hyxzf:22 From: "Joseph Berki jskmberki@windstream.net" Received: from mail.windstream.net ([69.168.106.36] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.8) with ESMTPS id 11814485 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 20:30:40 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.168.106.36; envelope-from=jskmberki@windstream.net Return-Path: DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha1; d=windstream.net; s=20180222; c=relaxed/simple; q=dns/txt; i=@windstream.net; t=1540686625; h=From:Subject:Date:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type; bh=E2v80dg7YZxoC4KoCbNn2sf+4M0=; b=uAERemfBemNPxdkKpiu1a+D5gFINBiN2LZ9/qCnSKBtOYK4qU34kBLAqtpC8KCU7 pQIO3SMlww0HnTXa4/yo7GtTknwjy3xPsbpwsrMqlLLfgrYhiiMeO6lE66/Go0Bz M5vtWJbLopykMeOYWBvSvurCjwfCWf+ob5hN0ch3lAN25gSPGhHsjxXJn9tzpW9M siGBDoBDJewN1XcKtlXVaXFss4tsf8VpviwUu6VQpXmFNrb+J5F8globfzfXId0I klS8TrgffcS95fMTb9t0wiofgrshGO7B2FPurSLSMlw4gXz49HKyQoIFWCV8mOqe xrc9UEumzEFqHIVmob1CmA==; X_CMAE_Category: , , X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=HJyBLclv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=z5L9EAaXgGRAepH6lFDjcw==:117 a=z5L9EAaXgGRAepH6lFDjcw==:17 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=smKx5t2vBNcA:10 a=B51Z6MqnjM4A:10 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=o2QoyYduAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=B8TTwMl-ovFYgWyBrWEA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=V1RqZcJiwoSSr-b2WK4A:9 a=a6DNSf08VgYoOkDi:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=S50rnUa8yRbNnh2hyxzf:22 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine X-Authed-Username: anNrbWJlcmtpQHdpbmRzdHJlYW0ubmV0 Authentication-Results: smtp04.aqua.bos.sync.lan smtp.user=jskmberki@windstream.net; auth=pass (LOGIN) Received: from [40.133.178.169] ([40.133.178.169:50747] helo=DESKTOP7BC15I2) by mail.windstream.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.25.56547 r(Core:3.6.25.0)) with ESMTPA id CC/35-14098-02305DB5; Sat, 27 Oct 2018 20:30:25 -0400 To: "'Rotary motors in aircraft'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: Ignition at flexplate Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2018 20:30:08 -0400 Message-ID: <001001d46e55$61ed3c80$25c7b580$@windstream.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0011_01D46E33.DAE1DE10" X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook 16.0 Thread-Index: AQMUiL0a1ZEu9BGjvSvPkpn3tOkyiqKzmA/Q Content-Language: en-us This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01D46E33.DAE1DE10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Neil, =20 My original design had them mounted to the front of the engine where 2 = V belts could take them out. With the water pump and alternator driven = off the belts multiple failures seemed to drive me to look for another = place. =20 Joe Berki =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 5:17 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: Ignition at flexplate =20 Joe, great job, but flex plates have been known to fail which means you lose ignition as well. Can your triggers be mounted at the front of the engine?? All right I'll go away!! Neil. =20 On 10/28/2018 3:02 AM, Joseph Berki jskmberki@windstream.net wrote: Charlie, =20 I weighed the C channel assembly and it was =BD ounce heavier than the = large flat washer that it replaces. I will probably add a smaller washer to equalize the weight between the trigger block and the opposite bolt location. =20 Joe Berki =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft =20 Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 11:19 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: Ignition at flexplate =20 On 10/27/2018 9:14 AM, Joseph Berki jskmberki@windstream.net wrote: =20 =20 From: Joseph Berki =20 Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 10:09 AM To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' Subject: Ignition at flexplate =20 I have attached pics for the installation of the 2 RX 8 sensors on the = plate of the RD=3D1C. They are placed 180 degrees apart. I am using one of = the 4 locations where the damper is bolted to the flexplate. I made a C = channel bracket that captures the head of the bolt that secures the damper. A = chunk of aluminum straddles the head of the bolt and fits into the C channel. = It is tapped for 10-32 bolt that is the trigger and can be moved to change timing. The sensors can be moved in and out to get the right clearance. = I would like to put a scope on the sensors to see if any of the other 3 = bolt heads affect the signal. This is a mockup engine and has no rotors. I would like to remove the front and rear stationary gears and lubricate = the bearings and re install the stationary gears and using the starter spin = the assembly over to monitor the sensor with a scope. The signals will be = fed to a Chrysler ignition module and I want to ensure that they trigger properly. I will have to send picsin multiple emails Joe Berki 13b P = Port Limo EZ=20 =20 Don't forget the need to keep the flywheel/flexplate assy balanced. Charlie =20 =20 =20 Virus-free. www.avast.com=20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_0011_01D46E33.DAE1DE10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Neil,

 

My original = design=A0 had them mounted to the front of the engine where 2 V belts = could take them out.=A0 With the water pump and alternator driven off = the belts multiple failures seemed to drive me to look for another = place.=A0

Joe Berki

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Saturday, October = 27, 2018 5:17 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = FW: Ignition at flexplate

 

Joe,  great job, but flex = plates have been known to fail which means you lose ignition as = well.  Can your triggers be mounted at the front of the = engine??    All right I'll go away!!  = Neil.

 

On 10/28/2018 3:02 AM, Joseph Berki jskmberki@windstream.net = wrote:

Charlie,

 

I weighed = the C channel assembly and it was =BD ounce heavier than the large flat = washer that it replaces.  I will probably add a smaller washer to = equalize the weight between the trigger block and the opposite bolt = location.

 

Joe Berki

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.n= et>
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 11:19 = AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.n= et>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: FW: Ignition at = flexplate

 

On = 10/27/2018 9:14 AM, Joseph Berki jskmberki@windstream.net = wrote:

 

 

From: Joseph Berki <jskmberki@windstream.net>=
Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2018 10:09 AM
To: = 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.n= et>
Subject: Ignition at = flexplate

 

I have = attached pics for the installation of the 2 RX 8 sensors on the plate of = the RD=3D1C. They are placed 180 degrees apart.  I am using one of = the 4 locations where the damper is bolted to the flexplate.  I = made a C channel bracket that captures the head of the bolt that secures = the damper. A chunk of aluminum straddles the head of the bolt and fits = into the C channel.  It is tapped for 10-32 bolt that is the = trigger and can be moved to change timing.  The sensors can be = moved in and out to get the right clearance.  I would like to put a = scope on the sensors to see if any of the other 3 bolt heads affect the = signal.  This is a mockup engine and has no rotors.  I would = like to remove the front and rear stationary gears and lubricate the = bearings and re install the stationary gears and using the starter spin = the assembly over  to monitor the sensor with a scope.  The = signals will be fed to a Chrysler ignition module and I want to ensure = that they trigger properly. I will have to send picsin multiple = emails Joe Berki 13b P Port Limo EZ

 

Don't forget the need to keep the flywheel/flexplate = assy balanced.

Charlie

 

V= irus-free. www.avast.com =

 

 

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