X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=O/h7h11W c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=dg4IilA35Stpn4h1fnSyIQ==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=kj1derGAFDYA:10 a=JBFolyDoGHsA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=0qqORytXAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=tPK3TqdvwzruRQr4x1IA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=UdDb9M--CK-C_RcYd7gA:9 a=Z0mrQjR6X3Mp2i9a:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=Nj1bhqyGrdl6Az3_ctNx:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "alex alex.molteno@gmail.com" Received: from mail-wr1-f51.google.com ([209.85.221.51] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.7) with ESMTPS id 11654197 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 13:04:58 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.221.51; envelope-from=alex.molteno@gmail.com Received: by mail-wr1-f51.google.com with SMTP id n2-v6so18103202wrw.7 for ; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 10:04:58 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=O3FOwRZxN8E81lChYlkL9fnIj26kQYBm8dFGtwl3Wl8=; b=sWVnQeCbHvPNX87IQOJRG7X2sQYucmIZQMa2d1nDu6ojViHOckSUpFWvYH8FfKXrym PsiQITiopiWD66+xXF/2q8TQh/niOTtSblbRbM5D4WtxMDZQKVgg5pU6AeLubwW7gaf7 qzFG3U7/h5WQbymi0teA0FaX/1tuwTxAIkkWAzLtqN5a/Fk7AfstnDb9+UHSS6fqHByw BX3zpyUINpqESMYzbXh7eoCYbk3qp4OrtKmGnLpFvyfJvSzqaBcJ6uj0gn3JAKG//wjI pcUtmwiLmywElU9J8CmohsYeupU6Zu7/HSlo40lP/5qucYvs4Pl2My9VCHavm4sWfINZ jj2Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=O3FOwRZxN8E81lChYlkL9fnIj26kQYBm8dFGtwl3Wl8=; b=qQvpfDAwhJmZ3PtmDxHxQQGqXyZRujLqb1PjuLnKwntChAVX4y3FkZI2VC06n36toX OQO/RvK8ajIF5RTvPmQoDtGsH06wz/RrNLW4MUpfuoAyWM/ZvsFhntx2u3bl194jG38t /jymvX2YhYaPmBJNMFE6f3fSbZ17j4NkyTnsyQcygjZrbpFVO3CQzw1XcA0/7l9POnqS VUpg36AHV80wZ4MM3y4fADilrZqy9N7roP1+XVOo0ja2i21i2KQUjHYAWDuxIqRANtw5 o9ZQLkh3p/+qcXYPSQ5B13Bhckzf4VYSi5xvKcuSWaiygnF6/qo3ijS79jT1IG0N20Q3 esFQ== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51BuvJBqFmXOU8VjpMnIMSPbKON1DAu/zR+4cu5PmDGtupOmOcST K1zq575NJmJiArXe1viD+8h/E080rFKU46G9dlR1XA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZJbkki/lpxdngLI0sb3HiddrE1o3LXttDDitiWbfZxAKbDwYYG/hcSSNGSuToye+aoyDirKgjacfYJNI2yy3I= X-Received: by 2002:adf:bd90:: with SMTP id l16-v6mr19932767wrh.250.1537203880423; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 10:04:40 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 13:04:27 -0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: ignition system To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000003d76010576142bca" --0000000000003d76010576142bca Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Neil, you might want to check base with Matt Boiteau he's making progress with the megasquirt on his p port tuning On Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 02:53 Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Yeah, still want to advance timing. Really only need 3 speed settings, > Idle -- does not matter really. Then full power and cruise speed are > the two that matter. I am having all sports of grief with Fuel Tech > having spent $4000 AUD on it. It is good but as always complicated. A > carby plus simple ignition will do. The Rotec carby for $800 is so > simple and runs on 5 PSI. Trigger wheel would be a reasonably simple > change. > > > On 9/17/2018 11:26 AM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com wrote: > > On 9/16/2018 7:33 PM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com wrote: > >> On 9/16/2018 4:35 PM, Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com wrote: > >>> Gents, > >>> > >>> The cost of an ECU is around the $3000 plus > >>> possibly $4000 with a few fittings, which is substantial. To > >>> simplify things a standard carby with a basic ignition systems would > >>> take a lot of money from the project. What alternatives are there > >>> for a simple cheap ignition system to replace an ECU? > >>> > >>> Neil Unger. > >> Are you willing to change the trigger wheel? You could look at the > >> Mega Jolt (ignition only). It requires a 36-1 wheel, like Ford uses > >> here in the USA (might be the same down under). > >> > >> If you're interested in alternatives in full injection/ignition > >> controllers, the Micro Squirt & Mega Squirt systems can both be set > >> up for a rotary. Micro Squirt will have batch fired injectors (like > >> almost all aftermarket systems for aviation engines). Mega Squirt can > >> be set up just about any way you can dream up. > >> > >> The Micro Squirt controller with harness is about $400 US. The Mega > >> Squirt controller is about $600 US. > >> > >> The car guys love them. Here's a link to an RX-7 forum page on the > >> Mega Squirt: > >> https://www.rx7club.com/megasquirt-forum-153/ > >> > >> Charlie > > Oops; forgot. Len Hanover has published a method using just a couple > > of trigger detectors and (IIRC) Chrysler ignition modules. Same can be > > done with GM HEI modules. Downside is fixed timing. > > > > Charlie > > > > --- > > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --0000000000003d76010576142bca Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Neil, you might want to check base with Matt Boiteau he&#= 39;s making progress with the megasquirt on his p port tuning

On Mon, Sep 17, 2018, 02:53 Neil Un= ger 12348ung@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>= ; wrote:
Yeah, still want to advanc= e timing.=C2=A0 Really only need 3 speed settings,=C2=A0
Idle -- does not matter really.=C2=A0 Then full power and cruise speed are =
the two that matter.=C2=A0 I am having all sports of grief with Fuel Tech <= br> having spent=C2=A0 $4000 AUD on it.=C2=A0 It is good but as always complica= ted.=C2=A0 A
carby plus simple ignition will do. The Rotec carby for $800 is so
simple and runs on 5 PSI.=C2=A0 Trigger wheel would be a reasonably simple =
change.


On 9/17/2018 11:26 AM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com wrote: > On 9/16/2018 7:33 PM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com wrote= :
>> On 9/16/2018 4:35 PM, Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Gents,
>>>
>>> =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0= =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 The cost of an ECU is around the= $3000 plus
>>> possibly $4000 with a few fittings, which is substantial.=C2= =A0 To
>>> simplify things a standard carby with a basic ignition systems= would
>>> take a lot of money from the project.=C2=A0 What alternatives = are there
>>> for a simple cheap ignition system to replace an ECU?
>>>
>>> Neil Unger.
>> Are you willing to change the trigger wheel? You could look at the=
>> Mega Jolt (ignition only). It requires a 36-1 wheel, like Ford use= s
>> here in the USA (might be the same down under).
>>
>> If you're interested in alternatives in full injection/ignitio= n
>> controllers, the Micro Squirt & Mega Squirt systems can both b= e set
>> up for a rotary. Micro Squirt will have batch fired injectors (lik= e
>> almost all aftermarket systems for aviation engines). Mega Squirt = can
>> be set up just about any way you can dream up.
>>
>> The Micro Squirt controller with harness is about $400 US. The Meg= a
>> Squirt controller is about $600 US.
>>
>> The car guys love them. Here's a link to an RX-7 forum page on= the
>> Mega Squirt:
>> https://www.rx7club.com/megasquirt-= forum-153/
>>
>> Charlie
> Oops; forgot. Len Hanover has published a method using just a couple <= br> > of trigger detectors and (IIRC) Chrysler ignition modules. Same can be=
> done with GM HEI modules. Downside is fixed timing.
>
> Charlie
>
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