X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=O/h7h11W c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=LooQsbCaLIKE2avGtE29Sg==:117 a=55z/sxGcUIPVrBMYBb4HRw==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=_Z_nqdSeG58A:10 a=JBFolyDoGHsA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=0qqORytXAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=UdDb9M--CK-C_RcYd7gA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=Nj1bhqyGrdl6Az3_ctNx:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 From: "Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pg1-f180.google.com ([209.85.215.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.7) with ESMTPS id 11651733 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 17 Sep 2018 02:53:08 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.180; envelope-from=12348ung@gmail.com Received: by mail-pg1-f180.google.com with SMTP id s15-v6so7181639pgv.8 for ; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 23:53:10 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=eBKxbeGC57atyGXa0V+IcCzzgCZWTYAI39qpGI/efCk=; b=EBmSoDWak5HluL6Jwh+xXN22YF4ZfAfQvTafvhJyMzmV+Y2HVVkXs4dxrwqJNINk2O XaBE4AKZ4PxHoQLd9RNbL9++Y5GUInzRMTnvb56S0+Hi8+a46r6RXQM2tlIw2+U5cnSM xDti9KyayCP1xjMa53Y/1cqEwIeOkO03nFwCTbflsu+Czb0QDziUZCVdMqOiJ5ztv89Q kPMpC4x7MUxCrunO77B4TxxzInUyJ9TgUVKM+yl9wMCxoN7k7arwiNuu0VjJOSJPoDbF JJeDec0zR5oa4hIWUvPUM1GVr8i+9G2rvHd/xkW4K+vSVhLYNLTkwneZrapwwLjyJqcE zoxA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=eBKxbeGC57atyGXa0V+IcCzzgCZWTYAI39qpGI/efCk=; b=rDNdf/3DWe4er9BtAIFZ0kMld3KriomD2tg7oPHeD4kspyyaGXTx+usl0pBIlShdak nmLmXQIfej21ncSij6zv80BZDSBiptwb3WvNf/grdshCuSAf+MGPVwxRgAEWNWpaq+Kw gNAjxsTQBBzMAmqM+Ju0q92dLbMWqcmOKK+WllGiuTSoXd+a5AYrqBoF2n2BEztxakT4 mInZaO48LTxzxYV0ZEI7Axctw05PUsy92YlM8oRc6KQpxmdgiTm/tb8xB9fIYUCHJy8d xY4hwtQeEqFjoaANs9ffbgsgDX43uKyU/eY0dPbJJrbo5pPTBPkLmIAn3odl6yDxkNBO Puyw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51Cx+g8gs6RHQkBUbwnnLh7gWEuQQk2Jr5s3H+xwELOFO459kLkP NEMGzzaufsYZvvqEveDmgYAor1dO X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdZNzNEvnwysPMgxMVZT3ftbigcft8AvdBki0tPI0Z+L48COPOcuzO40+AAlJoACXRJMIyJlMQ== X-Received: by 2002:a62:fcd2:: with SMTP id e201-v6mr24632032pfh.101.1537167171567; Sun, 16 Sep 2018 23:52:51 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <12348ung@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.0.103] ([103.198.24.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id r23-v6sm26857958pfj.5.2018.09.16.23.52.49 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 16 Sep 2018 23:52:50 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: ignition system To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <843b7b78-9d37-f963-df3d-310d4ac3e196@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 17 Sep 2018 16:52:45 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.9.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Content-Language: en-US Yeah, still want to advance timing.  Really only need 3 speed settings,  Idle -- does not matter really.  Then full power and cruise speed are the two that matter.  I am having all sports of grief with Fuel Tech having spent  $4000 AUD on it.  It is good but as always complicated.  A carby plus simple ignition will do. The Rotec carby for $800 is so simple and runs on 5 PSI.  Trigger wheel would be a reasonably simple change. On 9/17/2018 11:26 AM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com wrote: > On 9/16/2018 7:33 PM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com wrote: >> On 9/16/2018 4:35 PM, Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com wrote: >>> Gents, >>> >>>                   The cost of an ECU is around the $3000 plus >>> possibly $4000 with a few fittings, which is substantial.  To >>> simplify things a standard carby with a basic ignition systems would >>> take a lot of money from the project.  What alternatives are there >>> for a simple cheap ignition system to replace an ECU? >>> >>> Neil Unger. >> Are you willing to change the trigger wheel? You could look at the >> Mega Jolt (ignition only). It requires a 36-1 wheel, like Ford uses >> here in the USA (might be the same down under). >> >> If you're interested in alternatives in full injection/ignition >> controllers, the Micro Squirt & Mega Squirt systems can both be set >> up for a rotary. Micro Squirt will have batch fired injectors (like >> almost all aftermarket systems for aviation engines). Mega Squirt can >> be set up just about any way you can dream up. >> >> The Micro Squirt controller with harness is about $400 US. The Mega >> Squirt controller is about $600 US. >> >> The car guys love them. Here's a link to an RX-7 forum page on the >> Mega Squirt: >> https://www.rx7club.com/megasquirt-forum-153/ >> >> Charlie > Oops; forgot. Len Hanover has published a method using just a couple > of trigger detectors and (IIRC) Chrysler ignition modules. Same can be > done with GM HEI modules. Downside is fixed timing. > > Charlie > > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus > > > -- > Homepage:  http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html