X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=QoAc5h6d c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=+pE/htRxq5iM5CamdvwLzw==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=oSMvVwY2MYMA:10 a=dapMudl6Dx4A:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=UKPAHat8AAAA:8 a=zeCeww8OAAAA:8 a=wVY63xSqA8Qy7_dFdVcA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=wmXu1gDipA746Updx1MA:9 a=L4O3W0wt0l8Oc7V3:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=Fc6xXSS-RxGHxrvp76Qp:22 a=xmGugT5kI7RWeT601fq3:22 From: "David Leonard wdleonard@gmail.com" Received: from mail-qt0-f178.google.com ([209.85.216.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.6) with ESMTPS id 11553181 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 22:10:13 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.216.178; envelope-from=wdleonard@gmail.com Received: by mail-qt0-f178.google.com with SMTP id r37-v6so4614404qtc.0 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:10:14 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=mZkRu2Jf0sSDszDeCm+xrnxFAvZu7upCnmjNamh5Bxk=; b=VCo2X8jExrUmtblJuPw3Z/GTYUPgjrSicMQCSdHkC4aP/r8lRKr1q8L2mv2GULw7Uo pU0A0EqQ6UfiyOtsc21jSewvKfEm8NuzrBv1mpqEOJDqaizt0xZSNvanfA8uIwwba5cz mN1mjqT7+V349KDUjLtyxfRBRUhyhQxkv72sZUOygMWbJl4t0fhY/3kZU4sgWYiq8ulr izXjaHFkdDk8ecYqXp34WOpzTijPB7krGaWHDK+qDiKrO2nf1FoDfkI2EwmlPtfBoWgX +WzncDGlVwqu7mo95858hZqrcJokVe2I+/CvTRWTCjxjkcj3PXMrORW9VS/mAIfaEbF7 gk1g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=mZkRu2Jf0sSDszDeCm+xrnxFAvZu7upCnmjNamh5Bxk=; b=tUo855pNg9KHwhxN8Df/aMKiS6PPQnjiqRcfxe2WnbtxGkromBETCy2x2nJvIDI6MZ 8XbeNK09Cu2z1roevSRiD8LCsDp5B38fZC93DJiduTZZ1VyFlorvKXVyGBxvYdXm0xSp orQvvABcshQFhPJc6szJ5IkTYHyciYpmn28v8HiLeQylk7wj90jlgCHy/cQEiwjDuAD/ Eis0bMBbZscm+MzlP6dCukWX8I9ceEU+xbgJsTgG5wPpg7aygPLIE8XQT8ht/fK9ijmX 3j5ZXiPX3E8igjS7HCmG79oFBQTfvaExcxuYPr39Ljf2rcJ0z8ZJsO+HZ3PNg2PVcNkc RolQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlF98RkhVRtoYR6ZgSzcWf+jOzz2zVE8h8zgUK2cGIclA5lu6jAE FVmOdwVqSgNFgrrk33kBKtrDxFVyRmN6RBnNS0OOGg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPzWGeo18oGcvm83lq81xL7ihpMsgs7WZWOPkhawFPMheYOm8Wj5s1OEx/V0lbu6hRo5yC1K1bMQhpRIWXQUZfk= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:22ac:: with SMTP id f41-v6mr56472005qta.197.1534990197860; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:09:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 22 Aug 2018 19:09:45 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: flyrotary : Re Tension Bolts To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000007a2d96057410c1cf" --0000000000007a2d96057410c1cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable The flex plate broke during pylon racing School in June 2011 so the repair would have been July and August of 2011. On Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 5:35 PM Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Dave Leonard, > > What year were you at Reno ? That will make finding your > series of E mails and photos of your flywheel conversion a lot > easier to find in the Archives for those interested in replacing > their stock flex-plate flywheels........... > > Thanks, > Kelly Troyer > > On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 5:53 PM, David Leonard wdleonard@gmail.com < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > >> Hi Bobby, >> >> Yes, no new torbo failures since I decided to keep TOT (the only place I >> measure exhaust) less than 890C. Basically, I treat it like an aircraf= t >> engine. Rich of peak for climbing and decending (TOT around 810C) then >> lean at altitude when the MAP is lower (around 870C). Peak TOT is arou= nd >> 915C. >> >> Dave Leonard >> >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 3:18 PM Bobby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net < >> flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >> >>> Dave >>> >>> How is the turbo holding up? Is keeping EGT=E2=80=99s under 1600F keep= ing it >>> alive? >>> >>> Bobby >>> 500 hrs >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Aug 22, 2018, at 5:06 PM, David Leonard wdleonard@gmail.com < >>> flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks Kelly! >>> Yes, I am still using the flywheel and strongly suggest not using the >>> flex plate. Adaption was easy with a trip to a local machine shop. >>> Details are in the archives. >>> >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 2:41 PM Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com < >>> flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Dave, >>>> >>>> Not aware of a flexplate/flywheel replacement made specifically for >>>> use with >>>> Tracy's redrive but Dave Leonard (Turbo/13B-RV6) adapted an aluminum >>>> racing >>>> manual transmission flywheel to his redrive after his flexplate >>>> developed serious >>>> cracks while qualifying to race at the Reno National Air-Races several >>>> years ago. >>>> >>>> Perhaps Dave will jump in here with how he did it.......I know there >>>> are a series >>>> of E mails in the archives with photos of how he did it....As far as I >>>> know he still >>>> is flying with this flywheel........FWIW >>>> >>>> Kelly Troyer >>>> >>>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Pam & Dave Williams >>>> padajute@idcnet.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I am looking for a flex plate for hooking up my 13B to Tracy Crooks >>>>> redrive. >>>>> If that is not available, is anybody making a flywheel replacement? >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Dave Williams >>>>> Whitewater WI >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] >>>>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 9:37 AM >>>>> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >>>>> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: flyrotary : Re Tension Bolts >>>>> >>>>> I too broke a tension bolt several years ago and was fortunate enough >>>>> to get >>>>> a set of the NEW ones 0.500" from a friend - highly recommended. >>>>> Mazda increased the size of those bolts for a reason and my original >>>>> set >>>>> were all spiraled with silicone ... put a little silicone on the 0.50= " >>>>> as >>>>> well. >>>>> Jeff >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Dave, >>>>> >>>>> Run a spiral of RTV around the body of those tension bolts next time >>>>> you >>>>> remove them. That will pretty much eliminate the vibration breakage. >>>>> Don't >>>>> put it on the threads. >>>>> >>>>> Bill B >>>>> >>>>> Hello, >>>>> >>>>> I am a newbie on the site. I have a Tailwind with a 13B and Tracy's >>>>> controls >>>>> with his redrive. To this point I have been very pleased with the >>>>> combination. Last month I broke a tension bolt and have ordered new a= nd >>>>> improved .500" bolts from Mazdatrix. My original .312" bolts broke fr= om >>>>> vibration. I have 20 hours on the motor and never had any cooling >>>>> issues. I >>>>> suppose that means I am over cooled, but that is okay with me. I will >>>>> make >>>>> cooling improvements when I am back in the air. My 13B is stock and I >>>>> run it >>>>> at 6,300 RPM. >>>>> >>>>> Thanks, >>>>> Dave Williams >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> > > > -- > Kelly Troyer > Dyke Delta_"Eventually" > 13B_RD1C_EC2_EM2 > --0000000000007a2d96057410c1cf Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
The flex plate broke during pylon racing School in June 2= 011 so the repair would have been July and August of 2011.

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 5:35 PM Kelly Tr= oyer keltro@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>= wrote:
Dave Leona= rd,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0What year were you at Reno ? That will= make finding your
series of E mails and photos of your flywheel = conversion a lot=C2=A0
easier to find in the Archives for those i= nterested in replacing
their stock flex-plate flywheels..........= .

Thanks,
Kelly Troyer
=

On Wed, Aug 22, 2= 018 at 5:53 PM, David Leonard wdleonard@gmail.com &l= t;flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Hi Bobby,

=
Yes, no new torbo failures since I decided to keep TOT (t= he only place I measure exhaust) less than 890C.=C2=A0 Basically,=C2=A0 I t= reat it like an aircraft engine.=C2=A0 Rich of peak for climbing and decend= ing (TOT around 810C) then lean at altitude when the MAP is lower=C2=A0 (ar= ound 870C).=C2=A0 Peak TOT is around 915C.=C2=A0=C2=A0

Dave Leonard=C2=A0

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">
On Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 3:18 PM Bo= bby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Dav= e

How is the turbo holding up?=C2=A0 Is keeping EGT=E2= =80=99s under 1600F keeping it alive?

Bobby=C2=A0<= /div>
500 hrs

Sent from my iPad
Thanks = Kelly!
Yes, I am still using the flywheel and strongly sug= gest not using the flex plate.=C2=A0 Adaption was easy with a trip to a loc= al machine shop.=C2=A0 Details are in the archives.=C2=A0

On Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 2:41 PM Kel= ly Troyer keltro@gmail.com <flyrotary@l= ancaironline.net> wrote:
Dave,

=C2=A0 =C2=A0Not aware of a flexplate/flyw= heel replacement made specifically for use with=C2=A0
Tracy's= redrive but Dave Leonard (Turbo/13B-RV6) adapted an aluminum racing
<= div>manual transmission flywheel to his redrive after his flexplate develop= ed serious
cracks while qualifying to race at the Reno National A= ir-Races several years ago.

=C2=A0 Perhaps Dave wi= ll jump in here with how he did it.......I know there are a series=C2=A0
of E mails in the archives with photos of how he did it....As far a= s I know he still
is flying with this flywheel........FWIW
<= /div>

Kelly Troyer

<= div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Pam & Dave W= illiams padajute@idcnet.com &l= t;flyrotary@lancaironline.net>= wrote:
Hello,

I am looking for a flex plate for hooking up my 13B to Tracy Crooks redrive= .
If that is not available, is anybody making a flywheel replacement?

Thanks,
Dave Williams
Whitewater WI

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyr= otary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 9:37 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@= lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: flyrotary : Re Tension Bolts

I too broke a tension bolt several years ago and was fortunate enough to ge= t
a set of the NEW ones 0.500" from a friend - highly recommended.
Mazda increased the size of those bolts for a reason and my original set were all spiraled with silicone ... put a little silicone on the 0.50"= as
well.
Jeff


Dave,

Run a spiral of RTV around the body of those tension bolts next time you remove them.=C2=A0 That will pretty much eliminate the vibration breakage.= =C2=A0 Don't
put it on the threads.

Bill B

Hello,

I am a newbie on the site. I have a Tailwind with a 13B and Tracy's con= trols
with his redrive. To this point I have been very pleased with the
combination. Last month I broke a tension bolt and have ordered new and
improved .500" bolts from Mazdatrix. My original .312" bolts brok= e from
vibration. I have 20 hours on the motor and never had any cooling issues. I=
suppose that means I am over cooled, but that is okay with me. I will make<= br> cooling improvements when I am back in the air. My 13B is stock and I run i= t
at 6,300 RPM.

Thanks,
Dave Williams










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Dyke Delta_"Eventually"
13B_RD1C_= EC2_EM2
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