X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=QoAc5h6d c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=sSJN1N8SuLI3PR48Yftmbg==:117 a=h8nFgny2otpVuFhLY0QHAQ==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=CKeqCrOqW6IA:10 a=dapMudl6Dx4A:10 a=UKPAHat8AAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=VAMm1qzQAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=zeCeww8OAAAA:8 a=m9yf_2VCrUkHihR2pqUA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Fc6xXSS-RxGHxrvp76Qp:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=xmGugT5kI7RWeT601fq3:22 From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pg1-f173.google.com ([209.85.215.173] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.6) with ESMTPS id 11553143 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 21:32:56 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.215.173; envelope-from=stephen.izett@gmail.com Received: by mail-pg1-f173.google.com with SMTP id b129-v6so1724443pga.13 for ; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:32:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=k7XqLvdXFEaLjGvN09dleoHr2Y61WJnVRwp5zsc1GNI=; b=gGmJlyPqTohkcM4a1kQasbyiEYWOjJvb+PkyFdG7gpY3RrwkjgmIKpLTOBK+UrET6h 0keBd5z5ff2mwjMKZxmtMS0w/TBr3clrVzpasS0kjY88dikdLSklVeZDfPZalN540oW4 XKsWdAPbEVYNrGD42yAXe3bbG1ueF50KumtodtyFcFd19RaRqRi+aJ3ZW1MOVFfD2vNN CohZbqIjoKWckPMygz0FYnbOlomvCssk3A1su8EE5/dd2ZUmoqOFdvQuCASzYLwVCU91 YJHWvHMgn+9QV+YdwPlZoBNeMXvNE9lOv1FahMYBRS6RjmDgvZAycgDetFXwtBBQg7f1 6oeQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=k7XqLvdXFEaLjGvN09dleoHr2Y61WJnVRwp5zsc1GNI=; b=eTlRQOUgnU9GKF2Ns5+09ShkOhU7QdVFJkkZZVDXAz8Pv8AHHe2N56XLv0ujgcEg1i g6qixKR1fkK0vljc7EnVWzhI3uI0nq/uruQNHTEj04vW/a9vy9opjfMNpWoKEiI6zEmM pfLYKSCCXIFS/1Ri9hZKz1o8X+U+K883gAEMBFBuHPes7BEBQt+i787Y37KrgIuJd8jn 7hgwhnEEQ60SK7gS6vvHr0Lf6uZPOnkUebkCHHQHwuC3fL4VZniKBp+zUdn1G/4Sw4bu YmPB/snQUizUvJ+9wu4M/tgpw+nGXac6t8xB+42QYBB+eOfM7/Bnstyf7x2Xiyf699B6 lmvw== X-Gm-Message-State: APzg51CkQwGqooySVjHX/9sH2a+viDcqdJKllVr+W9+At42dvuoIj23i 9r3DIIPbNvskEBVQSyrIV/KllzE8 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ANB0VdaGQAOuXvWK7B6EBaa1glB2BIXA9vCVl3KvTeW9vOWW9Ea1jWI+HrVcZZ+E2E6viN9n0Mn1Sg== X-Received: by 2002:a63:ed07:: with SMTP id d7-v6mr1816743pgi.429.1534987959162; Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:32:39 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from steves-mbp.lan ([121.44.42.205]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h10-v6sm4041236pfj.78.2018.08.22.18.32.37 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 22 Aug 2018 18:32:38 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Turbo report Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2018 09:32:35 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <6250D7DD-79AA-4479-BB74-F1195A95E5E7@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Bobby, what turbocharger have you chosen and what was the rationale = behind your choice? Cheers Steve Izett > On 23 Aug 2018, at 8:25 am, Bobby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net = wrote: >=20 > Dave >=20 > That=E2=80=99s great news. TOT is the outlet temperature? If so I = would have expected it to be lower. The last coupe of years I have been = successful in keeping climb EGT=E2=80=99s under 1600F on most flights. = High OAT and quick fuel stops are the exception. But I think the heat = soaked engine and super charger is the cause. Performance actually = increases after climbing and everything cools off. Typical F/A for = initial climb is 11.3 :1 for 1600F EGT=E2=80=99s. I ended up with an O2 = bung on each rotor and tuned for a near perfect match between 28-40=E2=80=9D= MP. Unfortunately the EGT spread varies a lot in other flight = conditions. I=E2=80=99m slowly working on a turbo FWF to replace the = supercharger. I=E2=80=99ve done most of the work on the header with he = exception of wastegate, down pipe and bungs. The turbo is located as = faraway from the exhaust ports as I could mount it in hopes of dropping = EGT=E2=80=99s a little more.=20 >=20 > Link to photos > = https://www.dropbox.com/sh/41hrm00tyqapp0s/AAAiusuG0BHTJy9inZujGj-Va?dl=3D= 0 >=20 > Bobby >=20 >=20 > Sent from my iPad >=20 > On Aug 22, 2018, at 5:54 PM, David Leonard wdleonard@gmail.com = wrote: >=20 >> Hi Bobby, >>=20 >> Yes, no new torbo failures since I decided to keep TOT (the only = place I measure exhaust) less than 890C. Basically, I treat it like an = aircraft engine. Rich of peak for climbing and decending (TOT around = 810C) then lean at altitude when the MAP is lower (around 870C). Peak = TOT is around 915C. =20 >>=20 >> Dave Leonard=20 >>=20 >> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 3:18 PM Bobby J. Hughes bhughes@qnsi.net = wrote: >> Dave >>=20 >> How is the turbo holding up? Is keeping EGT=E2=80=99s under 1600F = keeping it alive? >>=20 >> Bobby=20 >> 500 hrs >>=20 >> Sent from my iPad >>=20 >> On Aug 22, 2018, at 5:06 PM, David Leonard wdleonard@gmail.com = wrote: >>=20 >>> Thanks Kelly! >>> Yes, I am still using the flywheel and strongly suggest not using = the flex plate. Adaption was easy with a trip to a local machine shop. = Details are in the archives.=20 >>>=20 >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018, 2:41 PM Kelly Troyer keltro@gmail.com = wrote: >>> Dave, >>>=20 >>> Not aware of a flexplate/flywheel replacement made specifically = for use with=20 >>> Tracy's redrive but Dave Leonard (Turbo/13B-RV6) adapted an aluminum = racing >>> manual transmission flywheel to his redrive after his flexplate = developed serious >>> cracks while qualifying to race at the Reno National Air-Races = several years ago. >>>=20 >>> Perhaps Dave will jump in here with how he did it.......I know = there are a series=20 >>> of E mails in the archives with photos of how he did it....As far as = I know he still >>> is flying with this flywheel........FWIW >>>=20 >>> Kelly Troyer >>>=20 >>> On Wed, Aug 22, 2018 at 4:17 PM, Pam & Dave Williams = padajute@idcnet.com wrote: >>> Hello, >>>=20 >>> I am looking for a flex plate for hooking up my 13B to Tracy Crooks = redrive. >>> If that is not available, is anybody making a flywheel replacement? >>>=20 >>> Thanks, >>> Dave Williams=20 >>> Whitewater WI >>>=20 >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]=20= >>> Sent: Friday, June 29, 2018 9:37 AM >>> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >>> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: flyrotary : Re Tension Bolts >>>=20 >>> I too broke a tension bolt several years ago and was fortunate = enough to get >>> a set of the NEW ones 0.500" from a friend - highly recommended. >>> Mazda increased the size of those bolts for a reason and my original = set >>> were all spiraled with silicone ... put a little silicone on the = 0.50" as >>> well. >>> Jeff >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> Dave, >>>=20 >>> Run a spiral of RTV around the body of those tension bolts next time = you >>> remove them. That will pretty much eliminate the vibration = breakage. Don't >>> put it on the threads. >>>=20 >>> Bill B >>>=20 >>> Hello, >>>=20 >>> I am a newbie on the site. I have a Tailwind with a 13B and Tracy's = controls >>> with his redrive. To this point I have been very pleased with the >>> combination. Last month I broke a tension bolt and have ordered new = and >>> improved .500" bolts from Mazdatrix. My original .312" bolts broke = from >>> vibration. I have 20 hours on the motor and never had any cooling = issues. I >>> suppose that means I am over cooled, but that is okay with me. I = will make >>> cooling improvements when I am back in the air. My 13B is stock and = I run it >>> at 6,300 RPM. >>>=20 >>> Thanks, >>> Dave Williams >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20