X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=QoAc5h6d c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=+pE/htRxq5iM5CamdvwLzw==:117 a=KwPsGajWcAwA:10 a=dapMudl6Dx4A:10 a=bFczog3C0QhqYxkqsOMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=SCYsgXlYwM898lnu1FEA:9 a=T9alTsBF4ig2UrKB:21 From: "Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au" Received: from mail-qt0-f178.google.com ([209.85.216.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.6) with ESMTPS id 11508246 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 11 Aug 2018 21:41:58 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.216.178; envelope-from=andrew@martinag.com.au Received: by mail-qt0-f178.google.com with SMTP id c15-v6so14190895qtp.0 for ; Sat, 11 Aug 2018 18:41:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=martinag-com-au.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=1uAo39dmyd+ilKWPVznIKKLIxQYx6IMZLr0ynVbFbGo=; b=LRb6TB72R0tJEQo3rjKC/+kUZ8AuxBlCyWPKla4sFa/lAoraFPRhUMstQx01FBG1I0 8u9JZwUQyFmLOeJuvZQfRW2LHZ3l2H/8RwNqWRuxUIv8OKOUyMyGOsxNTIkQWypngCRQ cTKMmhvB90E1Mo7mkBTODRZU9y9QPFAV2vvdaG06eBrwOuAiSW+jxyDQ1feITG+zXuIE i2rLGu6oqVMFCc4BC7JTJNI7QUKQptvmneyix3OtLo2eg3Q4K5aWuiHmTxjv8Qbh2F5J EQWIDCVgcMQ5wYAs97cYfRAxZNTLM6RavEsuYVmoi3VaAB4SMLvdcKFumDfk2nfaOdcw 6jTw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=1uAo39dmyd+ilKWPVznIKKLIxQYx6IMZLr0ynVbFbGo=; b=OGM2D5dIeKWDlioJuwMHNrxycoL32He6Ti1l40dkirLPORVJmKXzxmJoFEBfFvShSh XCBONw2BYM5A6DW6UGmynswCNoZQ8gJ5c0hsW/r279P7r7t7z3htjztbtZgEFdywrRgt svR4n1Xc4ldaNfJUI1I0i2TTOV8plyXr9nZzCbx7QOim52QUVX/Dy3fyzBhSqtaYFTZe EeARS/xrS7AYJsuh0G7VUzSmy54I/TwmOBPSfsLgWCZ+nJFGIPzulbghMFLMcpeW70C5 BAjod8if/2OPGHrH+d94ii4FdGXzjJYEv6WuUqvO1LjDEjQhjaIaNg/EtMsioZ2AwnXu Vo7A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlFONenq6+MfM+m2ZMfjSglSo2NT1wfobWgweM2AMFyCqE4EjSk5 nQbugX+cIlifYfTE/LPDQ6XyCti9IErqRuENCFyRZoQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA+uWPyAMWYdPaT/S7qOrxDDlRoiOaO/qgVRJIEDsLN+LPKiQqhS/7PgMRgNMy/IkoQ9AbKRbLVmkkgAEGIr8KSUkjU= X-Received: by 2002:ac8:1779:: with SMTP id u54-v6mr12049851qtk.285.1534038101862; Sat, 11 Aug 2018 18:41:41 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a0c:bec4:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sat, 11 Aug 2018 18:41:01 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [202.40.0.40] Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 09:41:01 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: wiring To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000022430e0573331400" --00000000000022430e0573331400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Just found the cause of an intermittent problem I've been having. Seems over the last couple of weeks I thought I had been flooding the engine on startup, Well, I had but not from what I thought. For absolute years I've never really had any issue getting the engine to start. but then just as I'm about to start flying again occasionally it would be impossible to start. turns out the ignition fuse was acting like a resistor. Was hard to diagnose as just touching the fuse made it work so every time I put the multimeter on it it would show as ok, and volts at the coils was only ever slightly lower but obvious now at very low amps. and if by luck when the engine did start it would continue to run( guess due to extra couple of volts from alternator) so no inflight failure, but would only have been a matter of time. Anyway now when I should be right in my test phase, I'm back trying to figure out if I need a redundant power supply for the engine. hard because of the type of failure and there are so many single point failures possible its kind of pointless trying to mitigate them all. The problem area was the contact surface between fuse & fuse holder, Not sure if I got a dodgy fuse block or if its just the environment. So do I duplicate the engine power bus, switches & wiring with diodes where the systems join at each component( lots a work) or just put it down as a totally random failure & just check & clean fuse panel connections as part of the annual inspection? Andrew --00000000000022430e0573331400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just found the cause of an intermitt= ent problem I've been having. Seems over the last couple of weeks I tho= ught I had been flooding the engine on startup, Well, I had but not from wh= at I thought. For absolute years I've never really had any issue gettin= g the engine to start. but then just as I'm about to start flying again= occasionally it would be impossible to start. turns out the ignition fuse = was acting like a resistor.
Was hard to diagnose as just touching= the fuse made it work so every time I put the multimeter on it it would sh= ow as ok, and volts at the coils was only ever slightly lower but obvious n= ow at very low amps. and if by luck when the engine did start it would cont= inue to run( guess due to extra couple of volts from alternator) so no infl= ight failure, but would only have been a matter of time.

Anyway now when I should be right in my test phase, I'm back try= ing to figure out if I need a redundant power supply for the engine. hard b= ecause of the type of failure and there are so many single point failures p= ossible its kind of pointless trying to mitigate them all.

The problem area was the contact surface between fuse & fuse h= older, Not sure if I got a dodgy fuse block or if its just the environment.=
So do I duplicate the engine power bus, switches & wiri= ng with diodes where the systems join at each component( lots a work) or ju= st put it down as a totally random failure & just check & clean fus= e panel connections as part of the annual inspection?

<= div>Andrew



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