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[97.44.3.158]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id s3-v6sm3973924pgj.84.2018.08.02.11.15.43 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 02 Aug 2018 11:15:44 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2018 12:15:40 -0600 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Alternator Damaged - Internal Short Message-Id: References: In-Reply-To: To: Rotary motors in aircraft X-Mailer: iPad Mail (15F79) Nothing, just direct wired. Not saying a fuse wouldn=E2=80=99t be a good id= ea though. Like someone already said, something just over the alternator rat= ing. You are protecting against internal short to ground alternator failure= . It would not protect against overvolt failure though. Those are pretty r= are. In your case, the solenoid may have both caused the alternator failure and t= hen acted as fuse to protect against shorting the battery to ground. Tracy Sent from my iPad > On Aug 2, 2018, at 11:02, Jeff Whaley jwhaley@datacast.com wrote: >=20 > Hi Tracy, that is an interesting comment. Sounds like a fuse would have b= een a better bet than the alternator solenoid - but what do you replace the b= attery solenoid with? > Jeff >=20 > The sequence of failure is a question. The relay failing and going open m= ight have been the first in the chain. Many alternators will fail internall= y when all load is removed due to over volting. Most Automotive alternators= were not designed for no load operation. >=20 > I've never been an advocate for either battery or alternator solenoid use.= They cause more problems than they solve. >=20 > Tracy >=20 > -----Original Message----- > From: Jeff Whaley=20 > Sent: August-02-18 10:41 AM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: Alternator Damaged - Internal Short >=20 > Last Thursday I decided to try my cooling on a hot day 32C (90F); orbiting= the airport, the cooling wasn't too bad but while waiting for the temps to s= tabilize I smelled smoke so landed immediately. Saw a bit of smoke exiting t= he oil cooler plenum so thought I was baking some fiberglass. > On the weekend I did a more thorough inspection and found the battery main= s cable burned where attached to my alternator cut-out relay and the relay f= ried to the point that the input terminal was loose. The connections stayed= in place but open-circuited the relay - so the engine never skipped a beat a= nd I was unaware there was an electrical problem at the time. Only reporting= this now as it took me a while to get the alternator tested. > Jeff >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List= .html