X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=HLeBLclv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=wND+VjlTwNTMTw4lOVupfA==:117 a=R9QF1RCXAYgA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=on22okXAAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=D9kGl7elUMHnnXHQtNsA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=UHjkfama519ZImLEp9IA:9 a=JJ9HURA03FYwmDZX:21 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=NPqpj5bUEVj9vR1HIonK:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au" Received: from mail-it0-f47.google.com ([209.85.214.47] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.5) with ESMTPS id 11336753 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 18:29:46 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.47; envelope-from=andrew@martinag.com.au Received: by mail-it0-f47.google.com with SMTP id s7-v6so9429591itb.4 for ; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 15:29:47 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=martinag-com-au.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=erRqeXy2/R3fsE7p/wc+L9AS8WTQIdau2NS8JtzA6KQ=; b=Y+0vUA+rypd/Dg4qN3X40MgVRpFhJJCHz93YR7WPXmEuPZDcKDNSNsNjykHB1kry5G +4oyFmg0X2kTic7c5JpIMXSG5oKeB3blaq520w0wT27Qdy7plO4OLgvwWl18UgoHIuGb x1vpyGxbwz56MASvP6JL/2AlA0TV3eVIP22mlRTS/osdxUCSeGJ91YwJg3Rz4czvd9Rl wlHc0GoCTFYJ+1DmURhLR8Q6FiU/zdNyOrGJEp/zgiUYw2sKxtFanOiZKeI7btuEhy4b K1OgJKjCAouHi0RYAxzFRisd/kc+an5Kfo/87ksyaaeiXcQz0EcZuY+UTrguidYQpYJY rLmA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=erRqeXy2/R3fsE7p/wc+L9AS8WTQIdau2NS8JtzA6KQ=; b=C04U5OtzW+1PqF3urIGFq3Sv0KbN9jx+66WaC1wb71b29cwkK9IxBzS/gJqFopWeMt 4Wm1P6ODAQ4wCuccgvZeDqyKeZdYlqWif9C4Q2DSgRf8qR3D1gNoSiNFM4ZHji17dgHQ O2CUM8DBzdL8C0eHJSI7Gv1J1W51/zJhwQutsmDvlc8t2SQJnjMfxoVE1Uiupla7BZkJ WyuwPouwh9+2bokEs/UoEHH7Iqxk2r6gAaN1EB/vgL7LxZPs3tY+M8EP4+JHx3NzaaM+ EWuVuJGZZH9Iy3dKEl831j56bOq7eutQbdYlsaRXo7E5c53OmfrXdV6vBX/zDKVRBVb4 wd8g== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1JlHafhAHF7XikMuSc23x0Ay3bp1cs4Ni1JY+Z7/vvu6XQM/UX Ano91Glx6q8k1JpLNhi/BnUBt1SFhtyeNo57x6yq X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpdjRZl3tvT7XaFDuLYBI9ootuH9CUMwKgAlph5PqtDJlWC7mqYyfnAWIfFYrW2/t2rWRBwKOtLD80cAfVT+a2g= X-Received: by 2002:a24:ed4a:: with SMTP id r71-v6mr3009595ith.53.1530743369278; Wed, 04 Jul 2018 15:29:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 5 Jul 2018 06:29:17 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: [flyrotary ] RE: Tension Bolts To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000c4c0fd057033f6bb" --000000000000c4c0fd057033f6bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable My mount is much same, just 1/4=E2=80=9D steel plate with homemade sump wel= ded to plate, works well, lightweight & no broken tension bolts so far. Would be interesting to also know at what time since overhaul that bolts broke, to see if there is correlation. Andrew On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 at 6:03 am, Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Jeff, At last someone did what I did, except my plate is only 3/8 " > thick, but then I only use rear mounts with the plate. Very simple and > works well to date. I have no idea if foaming is a problem, but have > never lost oil pressure, so am assuming there is no problem going on in > the sump using standard Renesis oil pickup as I have. > > > On 7/4/2018 9:49 PM, Jeff Whaley jwhaley@datacast.com wrote: > > My aluminum plate is 0.5" thick; you can see it is routed around the > rubber mounts, the center is wide open - just a 2.5"-3"" strip of metal > left around the oil pan bolts/engine mating surface. > > Jeff > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Out of curiosity (of course otherwise why would i ask) what is the > thickness of your plate between the pan and the engine? > > > > Happy 4th > > > > Rich > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeff Whaley > > Sent: July-03-18 10:41 AM > > To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' > > Subject: RE: [flyrotary ] RE: Tension Bolts > > > > Rich, my engine is a 1988 13B, normally aspirated, aluminum plate bed > mount, so the engine is held in-place by the oil pan bolts. The aluminum > plate and engine mount are of my own design and construction. > > Jeff > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Thanks Jeff > > > > Which model of rotary > > > > What kind of engine mount > > > > Any other modifications to the engine > > > > Rich > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Jeff Whaley > > Sent: July-03-18 9:54 AM > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > > Subject: RE: [flyrotary ] RE: Tension Bolts > > > > FWIW: I had one broken tension bolt on spark plug side of the engine; > not exactly sure which one but it was around the 10 o'clock position if > looking at the bolt heads end. The bolt broke in the threaded portion > right where the threads were no longer engaged with the housing ... this > was posted way back in 2011 ... see message #53485. Jeff > > > > > > > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --=20 Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag --000000000000c4c0fd057033f6bb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My mount is much same, just 1/4=E2=80=9D steel plate= with homemade sump welded to plate, works well, lightweight & no broke= n tension bolts so far.
Would be interesting t= o also know at what time since overhaul that bolts broke, to see if there i= s correlation.

Andrew

On Thu, 5 Jul 2018 = at 6:03 am, Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail= .com <flyrotary@lanca= ironline.net> wrote:
Jeff,= =C2=A0 At last someone did what I did, except my plate is only 3/8 " <= br> thick, but then I only use rear mounts with the plate.=C2=A0 Very simple an= d
works well to date.=C2=A0 I have no idea if foaming is a problem, but have =
never lost oil pressure, so am assuming there is no problem going on in the sump using standard Renesis oil pickup as I have.


On 7/4/2018 9:49 PM, Jeff Whaley jwhaley@datacast.com wrote:
> My aluminum plate is 0.5" thick; you can see it is routed around = the rubber mounts, the center is wide open - just a 2.5"-3""= strip of metal left around the oil pan bolts/engine mating surface.
> Jeff
>=C2=A0 =C2=A0
> -----Original Message-----
> Out of curiosity (of course otherwise why would i ask) what is the thi= ckness of your plate between the pan and the engine?
>
> Happy 4th
>
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Whaley
> Sent: July-03-18 10:41 AM
> To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft'
> Subject: RE: [flyrotary ] RE: Tension Bolts
>
> Rich, my engine is a 1988 13B, normally aspirated, aluminum plate bed = mount, so the engine is held in-place by the oil pan bolts.=C2=A0 The alumi= num plate and engine mount are of my own design and construction.
> Jeff
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Thanks Jeff
>
> Which model of rotary
>
> What kind of engine mount
>
> Any other modifications to the engine
>
> Rich
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Whaley
> Sent: July-03-18 9:54 AM
> To: Rotary motors in aircraft
> Subject: RE: [flyrotary ] RE: Tension Bolts
>
> FWIW:=C2=A0 I had one broken tension bolt on spark plug side of the en= gine; not exactly sure which one but it was around the 10 o'clock posit= ion if looking at the bolt heads end.=C2=A0 The bolt broke in the threaded = portion right where the threads were no longer engaged with the housing ...= this was posted way back in 2011 ... see message #53485.=C2=A0 Jeff
>
>
>
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> Archive and UnSub:=C2=A0 =C2=A0http:/= /mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html


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