Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #64133
From: Pam & Dave Williams padajute@idcnet.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary fit out
Date: Sun, 1 Jul 2018 18:11:34 -0500
To: 'Rotary motors in aircraft' <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>

Hello Charlie,

 

Sorry for the confusion, two topics in one post. The bolt failure was engine assembly bolts and the engine mount was in reference of possible cause of engine bolt failure.

 

Thanks,

Dave Williams

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Sunday, July 01, 2018 1:29 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary fit out

 

Now I'm now confused. Are we talking about mount bolt failures, or engine assembly bolt (those 15"+ long ones) failures? I thought that mount design was one discussion, and block assy bolts was a different subject.  If you're asking whether mount style affects block assy bolt failure, I'd think it's extremely unlikely. The bolts have failed in cars, and in a/c using the bed mount plate.

 

Charlie

 

On Sun, Jul 1, 2018 at 1:06 PM, A R Goldman argoldman@aol.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hi dave

 

Can’t comment on the bolts.  Sorry

 

I do have some questions about the mount

 

I cant remember wha it looks like. But in my mind i seem to have rejected it for some reason in favor of the pan mount which was recommended ( and sold) by tracy. The girllls also were vehemently against the beam. ( of course they sold their version of the pan mount)

 

It would be interesting to find out what types of mounts were used in other aircraft bolt failures?

 

Inquiring mind wants to know!

 

Rich 

 

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On Jul 1, 2018, at 10:10 AM, Pam & Dave Williams padajute@idcnet.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hello Rich,

 

Thank you for welcoming me to your hanger!!! The engine mount I used was called (I think) a Shurs beam. It is square tubing with the center of one side cut out. It runs left to right and sits under the engine endplate between rotor 2 and the flywheel. On bolts I found out that the chromemoly ½” are no longer available. So the current list of available bolts are 5/16” steel open bore(my bolts), 3/8” steel open bore (your bolts), ½” titanium slip fit (from Mazdatrix). Do you have an opinion which would be better, 3/8” steel open bore or ½” titanium slip fit? Remember my motor is stock 13B and my concern is vibration cracking the bolts.

 

Thanks,

Dave Williams

 

From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2018 12:45 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary fit out

 

Dave, It was good seeing you at my hanger last week.

 

I forgot to ask you what kind of engine mount you used.

Jim told me that your bolts were the same size as the ones in my renesis minus the notches.

 

I look forward to haring from you 

 

Rich

 

In a message dated 6/28/2018 9:42:30 AM Central Standard Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:

 

Dave - where are you based out of?

R/
Luis

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From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 6:16 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] Re: Rotary fit out

Hello,

I am a newbie on the site. I have a Tailwind with a 13B and Tracy's controls with his redrive. To this point I have been very pleased with the combination. Last month I broke a tension bolt and have ordered new and improved .500" bolts from Mazdatrix. My original .312" bolts broke from vibration. I have 20 hours on the motor and never had any cooling issues. I suppose that means I am over cooled, but that is okay with me. I will make cooling improvements when I am back in the air. My 13B is stock and I run it at 6,300 RPM.

Thanks,
Dave Williams

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From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Sunday, June 10, 2018 4:48 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [FlyRotary] Rotary fit out

Hey all
Just throwing it out there.
What's the thoughts on small production of engine mounts to suit the rv6,7 for the 13b renises, also cowls, and efi and turbo setup to suit.
Also bell housings.
My 13 b is currently out to get some cracks repaired on one of the gear leg mounts, ( cracked due to the gear leg being to stiff) Plane currently has approx 700hrs now and was going well.
All temps were under control.
Small history
13b renises pp
Custom efi
Modified james cowls

172ktas with free flowing exhaust, high fuel burn
155 Ktas with restrictive exhaust under cowl

Plans

13b renises with turbo with small boost
Simple new efi
Neil's new Psru
Bellhousing to suit
Radiators and all gear to fit the rv

I welcome all insights and thoughts

Cheers
Christian
Rv7 13b renises

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