X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=HLeBLclv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=yNAc3stJaIGHKUkZAXg/zw==:117 a=4RaTjCEQgPjkDUvYMt8vvA==:17 a=7mUfYlMuFuIA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=pzabOIBmAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=CpabjFEHU78-pi2yLCMA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=4PR2P7QzAAAA:8 a=OVVxAJBg5XgApUdvQuYA:9 a=W-693QUuA7HSfaDZ:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=nVqdet1FKztYqENFGv2R:22 a=4dqwQCo7Po2mVW515mGf:22 From: "Richard Sohn res12@fairpoint.net" Received: from smtp687.redcondor.net ([208.80.206.87] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.5) with ESMTPS id 11310655 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 27 Jun 2018 22:59:22 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=208.80.206.87; envelope-from=res12@fairpoint.net Received: from mailproxy3.av-mx.com ([137.118.40.133]) by smtp687.redcondor.net ({f50aeeea-7a14-4dd3-bdda-1246754c15b3}) via TCP (outbound) with ESMTP id 20180628025904938_0687 for ; Thu, 28 Jun 2018 02:59:04 +0000 X-RC-FROM: X-RC-RCPT: Received: from [192.168.2.8] (dflo-66-243-230-100.gtcom.net [66.243.230.100]) (Authenticated sender: res12@fairpoint.net) by mailproxy3.av-mx.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 5DC442025C7 for ; Wed, 27 Jun 2018 22:59:01 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Single rotor oiling To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <4b0de40a-aaf1-6c22-f101-cb080470546a@fairpoint.net> Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2018 21:58:54 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------89F5B1015B361628B6AD2643" Content-Language: en-US X-DLP-OUTBOUND: 137.118.40.128/25 X-MAG-OUTBOUND: greymail.redcondor.net@137.118.40.128/25 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------89F5B1015B361628B6AD2643 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit I am still here! Must have missed your email, sorry. Look at the website ROTARYPRAGMA.COM , and ask questions here. Richard On 6/27/2018 4:36 PM, Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com wrote: > > Is Richard on this forum?  Emailed him a few years back and silence.  > Neil.  Has anyone got contact details for Richard? Neil. > > > On 6/28/2018 5:53 AM, Accountlehanover lehanover@aol.com wrote: >> There are a number of items to consider. The stock Mazda pump is a >> convenient package. So, good to go there. The Kidney shaped ports and >> the bearing hole for the pump shaft will be in your new housings. >> Drillings to connect to the oil pick up pipe and to the outside are >> required. The stock pump will be more than adequate pressure and >> volume wise. You can score big on the pickup shape (trumpet bell) and >> bolt on end with an "O" ring feature. I like the pressure relief at >> the end of the system (Stock Mazda). With one less rotor spraying oil >> there will be extra unused oil returning to the pan. You might think >> about that oil returning to the top of a full engine baffle plate to >> help reduce foaming. >> >> The deeper the pan and the closer to the bottom is the end of the >> pickup, the less likely it is that the engine can be starved for oil. >> So, steep climbs and descents and long slips will be worry free. >> >> You can clock the stationary gears to accept incoming oil from nearly >> any location. >> >> Richard Sohn has done all of this and makes the adapter that puts in >> 2 cycle oil instead of sump oil. He also has the balance figured out. >> Another problem solved. >> >> The dry sump system is far more complex and has far more weight and >> uses a very expensive pump. >> Not in the running if I were doing it. If you need massive amounts of >> oil flow you can buy the pieces of a dry sump pump and just build an >> external pressure pump and use that on a wet sump engine. >> >> Lynn E. Hanover >> >> > -- Richard Sohn 8029 County HWY 1087 DeFuniak Springs, FL 32433 --------------89F5B1015B361628B6AD2643 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

I am still here! Must have missed your email, sorry. Look at the website ROTARYPRAGMA.COM , and ask questions here.

Richard


On 6/27/2018 4:36 PM, Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com wrote:

Is Richard on this forum?  Emailed him a few years back and silence.  Neil.  Has anyone got contact details for Richard?   Neil.


On 6/28/2018 5:53 AM, Accountlehanover lehanover@aol.com wrote:
There are a number of items to consider. The stock Mazda pump is a convenient package. So, good to go there. The Kidney shaped ports and the bearing hole for the pump shaft will be in your new housings. Drillings to connect to the oil pick up pipe and to the outside are required. The stock pump will be more than adequate pressure and volume wise. You can score big on the pickup shape (trumpet bell) and bolt on end with an "O" ring feature. I like the pressure relief at the end of the system (Stock Mazda). With one less rotor spraying oil there will be extra unused oil returning to the pan. You might think about that oil returning to the top of a full engine baffle plate to help reduce foaming.

The deeper the pan and the closer to the bottom is the end of the pickup, the less likely it is that the engine can be starved for oil. So, steep climbs and descents and long slips will be worry free.

You can clock the stationary gears to accept incoming oil from nearly any location.

Richard Sohn has done all of this and makes the adapter that puts in 2 cycle oil instead of sump oil. He also has the balance figured out. Another problem solved.

The dry sump system is far more complex and has far more weight and uses a very expensive pump.
Not in the running if I were doing it. If you need massive amounts of oil flow you can buy the pieces of a dry sump pump and just build an external pressure pump and use that on a wet sump engine.

Lynn E. Hanover




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Richard Sohn
8029 County HWY 1087
DeFuniak Springs, FL 32433
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