X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=HLeBLclv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=JFLq0Zg074/TNoPlXaVJig==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=xXDCcK6TKBsA:10 a=7mUfYlMuFuIA:10 a=eRLigfuSAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=_DuVYmk7zcPhD8SwfdQA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=y7xABP5Pkjo8U0TObWwA:9 a=0OMn3_6epFv7Ieyh:21 a=BfhXYjFvZD4iae-mNffo:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 From: "Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com" Received: from mail-ed1-f42.google.com ([209.85.208.42] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.5) with ESMTPS id 11298475 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 25 Jun 2018 02:57:30 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.208.42; envelope-from=bartrim@gmail.com Received: by mail-ed1-f42.google.com with SMTP id j25-v6so4696289edr.4 for ; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 23:57:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=NV+9R+SH/6CElChP+rn30gBpAb1Hf66VpGf3L4GU4II=; b=jsrOynduc/ekhZlRMc1N2yxcVs5Cma/uVMoREF5SWHejxjT23qZ49zx2xw8jV7arGo ufRTGATEa9h9TheBPvydG8dcdEQmHyjbBR+RzACYmo68NwiSJOtIQJBvaWv2nKexxsjc J2hAmKTMp+XVGMX4vkayOO1BDUDmViXi4ojwnUs/VaNIjCp/SU8gU70YKEkAT4dJBgQc jbhZjf/AT4PGU0vIbjL0qb92q3P42cJx+XUMTC7t98yD/Kg0WzXDrr9YW7tPEwQ/jaqt BYV8YUk1ds9ENx++nbORDItWjJj2oX4udkZh8JcP7ls/riGfOYTgU/qsxoZeGYWu+EEE CQfQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=NV+9R+SH/6CElChP+rn30gBpAb1Hf66VpGf3L4GU4II=; b=B7aQ4s2DjuBI6QLh13xlH3JlQAtV3W1qQWeWXsopk1HesOZzAJZ4eILlg1IohcB1rd W4aj03ewjwuv/4YzRDbFmVe9SYT2N1HfNLpfDjmU99zaXi522Z6CCfR8N/YTmfDbCVe7 Grj9HGHaqVx7f7H6+psLeSmwZEX+0q0C9Nzu+5TpDCVDKjWD25ehEC8XSw9x3gnTsr0q 1oCGe1RL8ByaZRtIZ7mc9zrig6ss0P6YxAg9ei8Nck1C4AEfmjnPNwJVSMvlhEqsaf9d B0BlNslc7SXyycQCHpdGUaMWQNxw0mzSQh2qRGhjJC9QG37CHp012sUcB2GOTilimH3T Te2g== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3IeSx2kpAlLwTz6fvFgkymQPB+M4ZA3POHv9vGYPWnGfiYXBoo Kv4pQgKZNJ+OrEijqLw7nFwrsNv870QwGMN6Sw== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKLZlgfrAQg0HploZdyPq8fx6cJlTj4mptvHLexdm72ym1aer0hn6cZZxp+LGuboGNnqEsQ0yKRvkb4EV6BV0wI= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:d598:: with SMTP id r24-v6mr4422394edq.176.1529909833689; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 23:57:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a50:8c94:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Sun, 24 Jun 2018 23:57:12 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2018 23:57:12 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: fluidyne oil cooler To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000002cf114056f71e4b7" --0000000000002cf114056f71e4b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Just put in an order for one of the Fluidyne's, but it looks like I'll have to do some modification to make this fit, but it shouldn't be too extensive. About pulling the valve, I was just thinking that since my oil outlet is out of the bottom of the front iron, I could plug this outlet into the front cover completely as Lynn has suggested if I didn't need to have the valve. I see that the exit side of this cooler has a bung for a pressure sensor. I think I'll move my pressure sensor down here so that I'll be measuring pressure before the filter the way Mazda intended. Todd... too broke to say anything witty.... :( Todd Bartrim On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 11:11 PM, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Charlie, thanks for that but just spoke to PWR here, Think they are > equivalent to your Fluidyne as the place to go for performance coolers. but > still could not give oil flow charts, said too many factors to consider, > seems trial & error is only way. > Was advised never to use a stacked plate cooler ( which they also sell) in > a rotary, only a matter of time to failure. said stacked plate is much more > efficient but they have seen too many fail in rotaries. > AUD600 inc freight for their RX7 replacement so a bit better than an > import. but they make them identical config in dual pass but with larger > tubes. So now I don't know if to try one as is or order one as single pass > to get even lower pressure drop... decisions. > > Todd. my oil lines are 5/8. > Why pull the safety valve? unless its opening below about 150 psi I'd > leave it alone, not much weight to be saved there. > Andrew > > > > > > > --0000000000002cf114056f71e4b7 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Just put in an order for one of the Fluidyne's, but it= looks like I'll have to do some modification to make this fit, but it = shouldn't be too extensive.
About pulling the valve, I was just thi= nking that since my oil outlet is out of the bottom of the front iron, I co= uld plug this outlet into the front cover completely as Lynn has suggested = if I didn't need to have the valve.
=C2=A0 I see that the exi= t side of this cooler has a bung for a pressure sensor. I think I'll mo= ve my pressure sensor down here so that I'll be measuring pressure befo= re the filter the way Mazda intended.

Todd...=C2= =A0 =C2=A0 too broke to say anything witty.... :(

Todd Bartrim

On Sun, Jun 24, 2018 at 11:11 PM, Andrew Mar= tin andrew@martinag.com.au <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Charlie, thanks for that but jus= t spoke to PWR here, Think they are equivalent to your Fluidyne as the plac= e to go for performance coolers. but still could not give oil flow charts, = said too many factors to consider, seems trial & error is only way.
=
Was advised never to use a stacked plate cooler ( which they als= o sell) in a rotary, only a matter of time to failure. said stacked plate i= s much more efficient but they have seen too many fail in rotaries.
AUD600 inc freight for their RX7 replacement so a bit better than an imp= ort. but they make them identical config in dual pass but with larger tubes= . So now I don't know if to try one as is or order one as single pass t= o get even lower pressure drop... decisions.

Todd.= my oil lines are 5/8.
Why pull the safety valve? unless its open= ing below about 150 psi I'd leave it alone, not much weight to be saved= there.
Andrew







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