X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=HLeBLclv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=ZEjyMTgO99znwcqTS+wwQw==:117 a=bn/DUsYu+aR+e4LdkXnOkw==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=CKeqCrOqW6IA:10 a=7mUfYlMuFuIA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=eRLigfuSAAAA:8 a=n0Ep740QtJvOk0_kyFYA:9 a=Wco8A-Ug0PuoGIvy:21 a=14crAlmTSLBQ7I1N:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=BfhXYjFvZD4iae-mNffo:22 From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pf0-f178.google.com ([209.85.192.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.5) with ESMTPS id 11293222 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 23 Jun 2018 07:42:59 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.178; envelope-from=stephen.izett@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf0-f178.google.com with SMTP id u16-v6so616757pfh.3 for ; Sat, 23 Jun 2018 04:42:59 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=suZKfdTlfvg4o0ey727aipCK9wXD+FC+v3yMQBeHhe0=; b=IBYAlcEFtg0/krh+982E53MivHGihO6lqRvRwQhdc4xVWKaxCn5eu3SqwMuwbSfDLf iIsV4c32uficY1xQBzEzU23vgptPn8nkFcdOP9iu7W+GeupR5F7k+eyVzzzXK5ujpk0M hUG7NU1XQ7mg48tBhI/AB71wkE3SmaMiOgNGexap0S23U6A3vnLZd6ETuJNkvxNq6lBq KatLedZB5OlyCKPzgfMUz7Lf9KgXdph3DuwTOc3uexSte16K8Xsb0oNIgTX1iFOvIj+m 277j5Feey8Emk4rXTVYkXrdyFOIHafwdTtBGsJjCWu7DrYlIuecE2H1QBCxV3llAQta7 hcaQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=suZKfdTlfvg4o0ey727aipCK9wXD+FC+v3yMQBeHhe0=; b=OXH9qQKAVAYkrL8XbpqFlV0oHCdGFGuLme82p68eQYvjHaUFokblNA+xAfCIdQqpNe Qjeros8Mn9tZ1R0oCNKJI5E35/3tAxQsCsykwZQi+whM/0/aN/YvV94kvBZQ3XrFnAul c6ihn71Wf76FGjpuLHrdPL+/UUUhoqG9oV8eDelDpI8UISEtm+Kt7BnozGlaoHqbq5Iv NxYFD0/n0mJzwNzbAHY24OEVw29tPYdsmSIOJh5keP3Gt+/+3hGALJPAafbe7IZ6BuOR Ie5UFdwQZC/UQeULDhXyFiUq+Ifu/hpGHR7ymOz4Ec2xgnMXWTmQM8d57xVkDfOtUTcY GWSw== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3aafwsZOmeYBVKasS1MagOHTmYF4sCo7J3lj21AeI1pW6ii6yH KwjGf8t6xKZtJiiXdUqVPjVjJ/C+ X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJUQX/WH4KMSbBVU63GC8RPTm6xPMZsHKAxbhrINy0MEqMcWVd5/1dzvZYf/Wjd1D61sBSedQ== X-Received: by 2002:a63:6e84:: with SMTP id j126-v6mr4405984pgc.450.1529754160837; Sat, 23 Jun 2018 04:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from steves-mbp.lan ([118.208.178.250]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m12-v6sm12436393pgp.88.2018.06.23.04.42.39 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 23 Jun 2018 04:42:40 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.4 \(3445.8.2\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Re. Rescaling the EM2 to metric Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 19:42:36 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: <8C492A6A-E6A4-428B-A7B2-3598831F00AB@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.8.2) Hi there Todd I=E2=80=99d be very interested in the settings though I have an EM3 and = I=E2=80=99m not sure of the difference between models 2 and 3. Do you have all seperate senders for the Em2 and Dynon? Steve Izett > On 23 Jun 2018, at 5:33 pm, Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com = wrote: >=20 > Ok, as I can never leave well enough alone, I took another look at = this. > First as soon as I took a moment I realized that the J&K = thermocouple would be real easy to calibrate and convert to metric.=20 > I used a Fluke temperature calibrator with a millivolt output to = simulate the TC"s. Worked like a charm.=20 > I tried to use the same calibrator to simulate the variable = resistance of the VDO probes, but they are thermistors which are very = non-linear, so even with the tables it was a challenge. > So I brought home a Fluke 9009 dual dry block temperature = calibrator. Good for -20=C2=B0C up to 350=C2=B0C at the same time = (separate temp wells). > That made it easy, fast and very accurate.=20 > However, the one that I'm worried about is the OAT as this one is = also used to calculate TAS, HP, and "other readings". > Now I believe I can correct the TAS by calibrating the scale factor on = the airspeed in flight against the TAS on my Dynon. > HP is an arbitrary number anyways based on what I think my max HP = should be. I think I can tweak that factor as well to get it back to = what I think it should be. And if I ever meet a Dyno I'll be sure to try = to calibrate it properly.=20 > But the manual also mentions "other readings" without details. > So I've put in an email to Tracy. > If it turns out to be important, I can always put this one back and = just ignore the OAT. (Its also on the Dynon) > So if any of you metric blokes down under would like to do this, I = can post all the parameters which you can input to your own EM2 and it = will get you close. > For very accurate calibration you would have to tweak them a bit = using a temperature calibrator.=20 >=20 > Todd >=20 > On Fri, Jun 8, 2018, 00:46 Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com, = wrote: > Hi Andrew; > I haven't spent much further time on the metric conversion. I think = it wouldn't be as simple as I hoped. It was fairly straight forward to = convert the fuel level to litres and most of the temp measurements = should be almost as easy, but the K & J thermocouples have different raw = data, that I don't believe would be easy to convert. And then some of = the calculated parameters will likely be adversely affected as well. = Probably not impossible, but first, I just don't have the time and = second, I would probably have to be bugging Tracy a lot for info and = he's busy being retired in the mountains of Colorado where he seems to = be online only occasionally. > I have however longed for a data-logger which the early EM2 didn't = have (I have #003). With the increasing popularity of hobby = microcontrollers I can get a Ardurino microcontrollers for $35 and a = datalogger for it for $6, so I just asked Tracy about the possibility of = harvesting data from the EM2. > However for a few other reasons, I'm considering that next time = someone on the list is selling an EM3 from an abandoned project, I might = buy it for an upgrade. I think there was one recently but it was bought = up right away. >=20 > Todd Bartrim >=20 > On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 7:58 PM, Andrew Martin andrew@martinag.com.au = wrote: > Todd, did you ever get the EM2 recalibrated to metric? I never = attemped this as doing so usually gives me quite a few hours work to get = back to a working system. I used Tracy=E2=80=99s factory calibration in = the EM2 as the base to calibrate my efis, which is in metric. It is a = minor inconvienience to do the mental arithmetric when comparing = instruments, but would be interesting to know if you succeeded. > --=20 > Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag >=20