X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=HLeBLclv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=eSAwU5dY3rbXN9WZy1zdRg==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=7mUfYlMuFuIA:10 a=A4WcyYkXrRYA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=vxE4bBEkAAAA:20 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=Rfw1MnDcze8KgchQmCcA:9 a=ZklBJCOGHcBbDUMQ:21 a=937q3BnuW5OlO8zs:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=ybo55Ob-FDYknxKj:21 a=dM15As_wO6QT3vfg:21 a=o9CXAIP9KF0bI7Xb:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Ernest Christley echristley@att.net" Received: from sonic312-26.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com ([98.137.69.207] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.5) with ESMTP id 11265035 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 20:49:25 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.137.69.207; envelope-from=echristley@att.net DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=att.net; s=s1024; t=1529110130; bh=DKb5684vyuVJSC9JkBzMeVW3MQ8MkbdAOBwDhRqN/fQ=; h=Date:From:Reply-To:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=Gpiqwi4ve5Avlf/ZE4phnWEr2bBrskPHjFL7T0yCytxOo/zdEJZ/2r5VIBGSwL9riB0kitgQ97msRDx+ThHhPP4TOl9x5XPqwl7LccM7Ami2+v2Ym+jKsLLkwGeapwq7H/fAhmNznxTdfxAfHrJHHFbFhRiQBfJeuDiWl1jVs/U= X-YMail-OSG: 5Px2ooIVM1lxvrlozX6LzCawz.PGiJT3VaF545m4_mfjQtjlkhWzoF2Rv5_I5b4 0UwcPlA_5sbXTMFIRJ68CsMm4a3m9xuUtK.VzTVV3Kqb95_QN0WG9nLliVSMCFHevsjDQJk9rNdD pvnsxH7fpmnb0QTUGTc9Gac4o0zLUpFJFVFQ.jMuTXTexOJCnBJsYPKqJ_vuwh3q06HXD.4ZC0TC 2ka1q2EelI9qDCvf828yvvb3oxAUrPuskz7aSvjBPowiCJtIvlp73IIj0iFbH8wGPfH8QQQXMdiy sxK.c4ImlN97FR_aqDK2xJI3CcWR6nSKuU_9DRS1iwnjfXP50o0ryy2sHHP2cADMLznG5n1I0jBb g8SNpGphBdswpeqbk_0fP5C.tj5oBEHIWMODM_d2e8PAcPOxjzN4HBHcnY7oKiztN6mdaQWya8RZ E6QqCbzqiCjiEdOdGsVnVaZf5v.DFm0UkMoqbBk7VyNKWQ7GuQSgNSekH.4uRbYb8IWXaPcVv020 vX6kJOj53tKhqhqOW65W9xMNMHG1kWPSs77h7cJfoVz5pKBDRFuwKwcEBZa6BXONEPy8Q1nZ26Az LxMfLNSB8YotHJMmboqkr7scDz9LreZ53viSYHZ6D6cOXlE.djqL7ivrx01xh0pq9p1GQCJ_B0U8 Azq9K7otDGjg1AuK5pAiuwhAjU3nUQTcQsG5jE1JdzoUhXPsXIK4ikgSPLt_Tf1iuuyuODjU_aXv JD3Q2iU5lr9x4fLrSXJ5AlcgNO1CyT5kD.bYCSj5MNvTrkgikPlzZr.JfgGr4puq6Vtz48ERUo9o TgOr6kCpyN9HMXCx7jcUurE7J_WISAB3gkDk6fGPdIOYIN28nc1PE79L6hQDB3zEtzuu_5CWLp1U ev79YD1av.xzJIxEAkkPSoDMN8qIbISo1ZWZlyeMb Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic312.consmr.mail.gq1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Sat, 16 Jun 2018 00:48:50 +0000 Date: Sat, 16 Jun 2018 00:48:48 +0000 (UTC) Reply-To: Ernest Christley To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: <40452664.434589.1529110128754@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: alternator MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_434588_926792819.1529110128752" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.11988 YahooMailNeo Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Ubuntu; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/60.0 Content-Length: 7736 ------=_Part_434588_926792819.1529110128752 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When I did it, I went to a local repair shop and asked if they had in damag= ed units that had been replaced.=C2=A0 Then I had a free sample to trial fi= t with.=20 On Friday, June 15, 2018 1:38 AM, "Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com" wrote: =20 Hi Neil;=C2=A0 =C2=A0I can't confirm for certain but yes, 2.77" sounds abo= ut right.=C2=A0 After the flywheel and damper drive modifications to increa= se clearance, I still only had 1.43" to squeeze it in there, so that is why= I also shaved a little off of both sides of the rotor cup and also machine= d a shallow depression into the backside of the psru backplate to allow mou= nting the stator close to the plate and still have clearance for the windin= gs.This link will show a pic of where I measured the 1.43"https://photos.ap= p.goo.gl/K7MLLdvV6QwLYVG89=C2=A0 At a little over 1.5" before any modificat= ions to increase that room, then you are much better off than I was when i = began.=C2=A0=C2=A0 =C2=A0When I decided to try it, I really had no more tha= n the desire & determination to experiment and a "Hairy chested hero" idea = that I set down $400 at the local Harley shop as a bet that I could make th= is work, knowing also that I was modifying an expensive PSRU, that is no lo= nger available for purchase. That gamble paid off for me and I proved that = it can be done.=C2=A0 So I would say that you gotta ask yourself whether th= is is something that you really want in your own installation and if yes th= en put that money down on a single rotor/stator and go to work to see if yo= u can make it work for yourself on your own design.=C2=A0 Then if you are a= s happy with it as I am with mine, you can figure out at what cost you can = offer it as an option.=C2=A0 If I were in your shoes I don't think that I w= ould go to the trouble if your only motivation is to provide it as an optio= n for others. But if like I said, you want this for yourself as well, then = go for it and if successful and affordable, then others can have the option= of one as well. Todd On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 19:19 Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com, wrote: Todd, =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 From what I can gather=C2=A0 the ID of th= e stator is 2.77=20 inches.=C2=A0 Does that sound correct?=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 To land a unit fro= m the US or buy=20 in OZ , the cost is=C2=A0 Pushing $375 AUD or $285 USD.=C2=A0 I have a litt= le over=20 1.5 inches to mount in between the drive and the plate. Do you remember=20 what space you had?=C2=A0 Thanks,=C2=A0 Neil. -- Homepage:=C2=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub:=C2=A0 =C2=A0http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyro= tary/List.html =20 ------=_Part_434588_926792819.1529110128752 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
When I did it, I went to a local repa= ir shop and asked if they had in damaged units that had been replaced. = ; Then I had a free sample to trial fit with.


On Friday, Jun= e 15, 2018 1:38 AM, "Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com" <flyrotary@lancairo= nline.net> wrote:


Hi Neil;
   I can'= t confirm for certain but yes, 2.77" sounds about right.
  A= fter the flywheel and damper drive modifications to increase clearance, I s= till only had 1.43" to squeeze it in there, so that is why I also shaved a = little off of both sides of the rotor cup and also machined a shallow depre= ssion into the backside of the psru backplate to allow mounting the stator = close to the plate and still have clearance for the windings.
Thi= s link will show a pic of where I measured the 1.43"
  At a l= ittle over 1.5" before any modifications to increase that room, then you ar= e much better off than I was when i began. 
   Whe= n I decided to try it, I really had no more than the desire & determina= tion to experiment and a "Hairy chested hero" idea that I set down $400 at = the local Harley shop as a bet that I could make this work, knowing also th= at I was modifying an expensive PSRU, that is no longer available for purch= ase. That gamble paid off for me and I proved that it can be done.
  So I would say that you gotta ask yourself whether this is somethi= ng that you really want in your own installation and if yes then put that m= oney down on a single rotor/stator and go to work to see if you can make it= work for yourself on your own design.
  Then if you are as = happy with it as I am with mine, you can figure out at what cost you can of= fer it as an option.
  If I were in your shoes I don't think= that I would go to the trouble if your only motivation is to provide it as= an option for others. But if like I said, you want this for yourself as we= ll, then go for it and if successful and affordable, then others can have t= he option of one as well.

Todd

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 19:19 = Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com, <= flyrotary@lancairon= line.net> wrote:
Todd,

            &nb= sp;      From what I can gather  the ID of th= e stator is 2.77
inches.  Does that sound correct?    To land a unit fro= m the US or buy
in OZ , the cost is  Pushing $375 AUD or $285 USD.  I have a litt= le over
1.5 inches to mount in between the drive and the plate. Do you remember what space you had?  Thanks,  Neil.

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