X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=HLeBLclv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=7kfoBFAjUWcLgFtkcP4LYA==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=xXDCcK6TKBsA:10 a=7mUfYlMuFuIA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=vxE4bBEkAAAA:20 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=zBSOwazvWxW_ir35ZLIA:9 a=2023SWEdwG7fkQ1f:21 a=4NgeeTBGef1QL3n4:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=oHvirCaBAAAA:8 a=9Ara4_16l6VZGwEohpsA:9 a=23cTEXfI86RRXKgP:21 a=hViGJaXZ4a9mHqh1:21 a=Mw137AItbEYEpH6Z:21 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com" Received: from mail-wm0-f44.google.com ([74.125.82.44] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.5) with ESMTPS id 11261467 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 02:08:41 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.82.44; envelope-from=bartrim@gmail.com Received: by mail-wm0-f44.google.com with SMTP id j15-v6so1753273wme.0 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 23:08:42 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=/s1Rj2gzgZzxqr/UKNFvNQ/dFApC0/Yq1XMvs6dAwuc=; b=ETZ/RgutcqE4XoKxsd6GVi0l4nJb+hWj+n7TeJXN6JH2q5NgwVL3hfAdLdb9I68BfK fBACctwWpKSsHwTRG3o+2XPRpyk0OnSrWY3znZRDvZzNfP5+T6s62nBUg6AhVodWJbnm WZJVaOigcnVOUqYf8X1jPC+eNDONZTHuy4YOKT5Bcv8BMxoVLr2RZJzbvE4TWIFnCPLd au0n+h95prYru7TvW3ck3dg1+Mxa8CJ4viGkRu0hIq6zBLVGiNwU34PgRhCRjhqo6zJ2 VSBB3xDeDTucWy+aVfW1ePxW008q35SgmzbN1fKVZ2V7zLCkvehcpbKm/RZ2fpfhFK0b utRg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=/s1Rj2gzgZzxqr/UKNFvNQ/dFApC0/Yq1XMvs6dAwuc=; b=OommE/RbZ6jLnZk/amuv8cvP0Cx61ZKsGPy/fsA8IY5MWFdCyl2Vil46/6dx44fLWP ijig/Tlx0X1AmoNeJsC0fRhYGl9iwoFrv6rZ15XoJRkl2yskGfWlNEfm0WlGJj5aTsci Y8621Y30SV8UD5nrdgvYLuByDNiE5hRA26g+5/maw8/nkz3DwqGVQvevqCkQOof3nUcg nqaTp70z2xbzO+OWFcT2cSCnAJFy6wjAXN+kLADTJT1Pv0ABhr6SMZNSYfC+4NECBBnH QNwSlMqtMOKE4GA5GJhel29zg5R1iK2pkW2PXhNph373e3rZijrHsoct13zL/MxIpjwg UTEg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E1k8kuzF5hIqIovtr+QECrmVglW0DLbe0tE/qXd082RYGvp23YM poD9ccXml0EturV+ETmqssHVBrXU/GnVIPW21A== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJW+Q6WehIBV9A/0/stHWsU8WXDcaGD4W6Dhip5xQJEXIkfoxOvNWigL3WJvI4pUkfOr1hm/2xpwp/Jnf0EdNc= X-Received: by 2002:a50:a722:: with SMTP id h31-v6mr655935edc.251.1529042904886; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 23:08:24 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a50:a527:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 23:08:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 14 Jun 2018 23:08:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: alternator To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000031330c056ea80b86" --00000000000031330c056ea80b86 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Are you talking about the Compufire stator/rotor/regulator from Amazon that I gave you a link for? Otherwise don't you have a Harley dealership over there? That's where I started my quest, knowing that I was gonna be paying far more money than I would by getting aftermarket parts on-line, but I wanted to actually hold and measure parts before putting money down, which was a good idea, because there are a few different models and sizes, so I examined them as best as I could, but they were a little hesitant about me opening sealed boxes to make my choice. But I was up front with them about what I was doing and why I didn't have actual part numbers to know what I needed. They had no problem with the aircraft application idea, but I'm pretty sure they thought I was a little crazy, but my $400 was still all they really cared about. Todd Todd Bartrim On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:50 PM, Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Todd, The alternator from the web site supplied finished at $348 > delivered. (AUD) That is getting it delivered by camel and raft. ONe > month delivery! > > On 6/15/2018 3:38 PM, Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com wrote: > > Hi Neil; > I can't confirm for certain but yes, 2.77" sounds about right. > After the flywheel and damper drive modifications to increase clearance, > I still only had 1.43" to squeeze it in there, so that is why I also shaved > a little off of both sides of the rotor cup and also machined a shallow > depression into the backside of the psru backplate to allow mounting the > stator close to the plate and still have clearance for the windings. > This link will show a pic of where I measured the 1.43" > https://photos.app.goo.gl/K7MLLdvV6QwLYVG89 > At a little over 1.5" before any modifications to increase that room, > then you are much better off than I was when i began. > When I decided to try it, I really had no more than the desire & > determination to experiment and a "Hairy chested hero" idea that I set down > $400 at the local Harley shop as a bet that I could make this work, knowing > also that I was modifying an expensive PSRU, that is no longer available > for purchase. That gamble paid off for me and I proved that it can be done. > So I would say that you gotta ask yourself whether this is something > that you really want in your own installation and if yes then put that > money down on a single rotor/stator and go to work to see if you can make > it work for yourself on your own design. > Then if you are as happy with it as I am with mine, you can figure out > at what cost you can offer it as an option. > If I were in your shoes I don't think that I would go to the trouble if > your only motivation is to provide it as an option for others. But if like > I said, you want this for yourself as well, then go for it and if > successful and affordable, then others can have the option of one as well. > > Todd > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 19:19 Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com, < > flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > >> Todd, >> >> From what I can gather the ID of the stator is 2.77 >> inches. Does that sound correct? To land a unit from the US or buy >> in OZ , the cost is Pushing $375 AUD or $285 USD. I have a little over >> 1.5 inches to mount in between the drive and the plate. Do you remember >> what space you had? Thanks, Neil. >> >> -- >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline. >> net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> > > --00000000000031330c056ea80b86 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Are you talking about the Compufire stator/rotor/regulator= from Amazon that I gave you a link for? Otherwise don't you have a Har= ley dealership over there? That's where I started my quest, knowing tha= t I was gonna be paying far more money than I would by getting aftermarket = parts on-line, but I wanted to actually hold and measure parts before putti= ng money down, which was a good idea, because there are a few different mod= els and sizes, so I examined them as best as I could, but they were a littl= e hesitant about me opening sealed boxes to make my choice. But I was up fr= ont with them about what I was doing and why I didn't have actual part = numbers to know what I needed. They had no problem with the aircraft applic= ation idea, but I'm pretty sure they thought I was a little crazy, but = my $400 was still all they really cared about.

Todd

Todd Bartr= im

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 10:50 PM, Neil Unger= 12348ung@gmail.com <f= lyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
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Todd,=C2=A0 The alternator from the web site=C2=A0 supplied finished= at $348 delivered.=C2=A0 (AUD)=C2=A0 That is getting it delivered by cam= el and raft.=C2=A0 ONe month delivery!


On 6/15/2018 3:38 P= M, Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Neil;
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I can't confirm for certain but yes, 2.77"= sounds about right.
=C2=A0 After the flywheel and damper drive modifications to increase clearance, I still only had 1.43" to squeeze it in there, so that is why I also shaved a little off of both sides of the rotor cup and also machined a shallow depression into the backside of the psru backplate to allow mounting the stator close to the plate and still have clearance for the windings.
This link will show a pic of where I measured the 1.43"
=C2=A0 At a little over 1.5" before any modifications to in= crease that room, then you are much better off than I was when i began.=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0When I decided to try it, I really had no more than= the desire & determination to experiment and a "Hairy chested hero" idea that I set down $400 at the local Harley shop as a bet that I could make this work, knowing also that I was modifying an expensive PSRU, that is no longer available for purchase. That gamble paid off for me and I proved that it can be done.
=C2=A0 So I would say that you gotta ask yourself whether this i= s something that you really want in your own installation and if yes then put that money down on a single rotor/stator and go to work to see if you can make it work for yourself on your own design.
=C2=A0 Then if you are as happy with it as I am with mine, you c= an figure out at what cost you can offer it as an option.
=C2=A0 If I were in your shoes I don't think that I would go= to the trouble if your only motivation is to provide it as an option for others. But if like I said, you want this for yourself as well, then go for it and if successful and affordable, then others can have the option of one as well.

Todd

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 19:19 Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com, <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Todd,

=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 From what I can gather=C2=A0 = the ID of the stator is 2.77
inches.=C2=A0 Does that sound correct?=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 To lan= d a unit from the US or buy
in OZ , the cost is=C2=A0 Pushing $375 AUD or $285 USD.=C2=A0 I= have a little over
1.5 inches to mount in between the drive and the plate. Do you remember
what space you had?=C2=A0 Thanks,=C2=A0 Neil.

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