X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=HLeBLclv c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=KJpAXj1+iXYry2tZ8UCqwA==:117 a=55z/sxGcUIPVrBMYBb4HRw==:17 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=_Z_nqdSeG58A:10 a=7mUfYlMuFuIA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=vxE4bBEkAAAA:20 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=AncDDIHiTV_snMePfigA:9 a=XAFisD-utXZYwH8k:21 a=2iHW-uwji5MeoNF3:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=4PR2P7QzAAAA:8 a=jsMo0elH3fcwBleeO-YA:9 a=2tBTdf5JUux7DcmW:21 a=CW2ubHiKkLoCZiIT:21 a=H_re0izjKdP8qmYG:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 a=4dqwQCo7Po2mVW515mGf:22 From: "Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pf0-f174.google.com ([209.85.192.174] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.5) with ESMTPS id 11261486 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 15 Jun 2018 01:52:13 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.174; envelope-from=12348ung@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf0-f174.google.com with SMTP id z24-v6so4352724pfe.7 for ; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 22:52:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language; bh=MsReSHwgILqYjeqoPB9ea3EiaUD/W+7zUHJXisLXkSY=; b=eJpefjLM968k6CDoqvK3SxAnxy08p/uo/rC6el0nf5mY1PG2j6eXA4QIIWWOztArqf /3uHG+A/eQrwqG4jdlUChWnDLo0zUB2KlI/a2xr7g3ylUBJpCMmNShpgTsjZtJ0Ym1Gb L0tRKcBQ1+n876xz2r3O2YFFYt6mTCxXBFijoRcLgypfYrP1igiEBQAcN37xY1iZb2Wo FxqvdobatQGu/GWmeFtVycEhrlEVP25CerIqfvJEweOxuRX+zS3ogkmkEuxXLq/r9huq oumY8Me30/hvXNU/LR+Nw17jbBt5xIIhMoW/wZVtFi3Bjj2eSwPcOwkZnTU1rgeovGQ4 H+ww== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=MsReSHwgILqYjeqoPB9ea3EiaUD/W+7zUHJXisLXkSY=; b=XrWknvKqe9gI1DBlHLd5gNdiJhwxC+zSFD2NtZ1gR2MQAgMR7MqcD2QAa5RpZpSROb aU7gbHRKGXo5KPrdBvPiyMjanFlsD+cYA/dXU1MyzR3viOxz6H4IJfTstMNdYM/Ixyty JjPosX3aJIF0SMn/gGs/TELx1zd36Kc3KNkrL7bqNAMJhFzhrW9wwyvUAjX3uib+9hRK 4RPSZRmq4Bu6hI9XwzNL8J4nUCMuOo0ZxtkCyN0bLlhYkG6lEeb9pYVn8vz7ntWoO02O MmlsosWXYNcprCphJw3IvggIJG/dJYysVbAkq1JWYuq4252m4LDDR73YvmzzUGcD940H VAOg== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3mJux2tyno9S1emdQwIfGMBLT3V4K2cKi5HptMzTmEx1/J4iaA kesTa1b6eW9sRkwO9vdtcM5lapcg X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKKNGWw9D1bQQ+Dv2qZpEc5cWzNt7VaA/NIElGSTLwtGqOUUBGaOeSLnQDKWliiqNSF9GUPaPA== X-Received: by 2002:a63:9902:: with SMTP id d2-v6mr290348pge.166.1529041917818; Thu, 14 Jun 2018 22:51:57 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <12348ung@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.0.103] ([103.198.24.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m83-v6sm19059520pfi.188.2018.06.14.22.51.55 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Jun 2018 22:51:56 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: alternator To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <1957cdb7-b378-d3e2-7fca-41a829440205@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2018 15:50:27 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------1406ED4D8102FDF00EA62180" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------1406ED4D8102FDF00EA62180 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Todd,  The alternator from the web site  supplied finished at $348 delivered.  (AUD)  That is getting it delivered by camel and raft.  ONe month delivery! On 6/15/2018 3:38 PM, Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Neil; >    I can't confirm for certain but yes, 2.77" sounds about right. >   After the flywheel and damper drive modifications to increase > clearance, I still only had 1.43" to squeeze it in there, so that is > why I also shaved a little off of both sides of the rotor cup and also > machined a shallow depression into the backside of the psru backplate > to allow mounting the stator close to the plate and still have > clearance for the windings. > This link will show a pic of where I measured the 1.43" > https://photos.app.goo.gl/K7MLLdvV6QwLYVG89 >   At a little over 1.5" before any modifications to increase that > room, then you are much better off than I was when i began. >    When I decided to try it, I really had no more than the desire & > determination to experiment and a "Hairy chested hero" idea that I set > down $400 at the local Harley shop as a bet that I could make this > work, knowing also that I was modifying an expensive PSRU, that is no > longer available for purchase. That gamble paid off for me and I > proved that it can be done. >   So I would say that you gotta ask yourself whether this is something > that you really want in your own installation and if yes then put that > money down on a single rotor/stator and go to work to see if you can > make it work for yourself on your own design. >   Then if you are as happy with it as I am with mine, you can figure > out at what cost you can offer it as an option. >   If I were in your shoes I don't think that I would go to the trouble > if your only motivation is to provide it as an option for others. But > if like I said, you want this for yourself as well, then go for it and > if successful and affordable, then others can have the option of one > as well. > > Todd > > On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 19:19 Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com > , > wrote: > > Todd, > >                    From what I can gather  the ID of the stator is > 2.77 > inches.  Does that sound correct?    To land a unit from the US or > buy > in OZ , the cost is  Pushing $375 AUD or $285 USD.  I have a > little over > 1.5 inches to mount in between the drive and the plate. Do you > remember > what space you had?  Thanks,  Neil. > > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > --------------1406ED4D8102FDF00EA62180 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit

Todd,  The alternator from the web site  supplied finished at $348 delivered.  (AUD)  That is getting it delivered by camel and raft.  ONe month delivery!


On 6/15/2018 3:38 PM, Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com wrote:
Hi Neil;
   I can't confirm for certain but yes, 2.77" sounds about right.
  After the flywheel and damper drive modifications to increase clearance, I still only had 1.43" to squeeze it in there, so that is why I also shaved a little off of both sides of the rotor cup and also machined a shallow depression into the backside of the psru backplate to allow mounting the stator close to the plate and still have clearance for the windings.
This link will show a pic of where I measured the 1.43"
  At a little over 1.5" before any modifications to increase that room, then you are much better off than I was when i began. 
   When I decided to try it, I really had no more than the desire & determination to experiment and a "Hairy chested hero" idea that I set down $400 at the local Harley shop as a bet that I could make this work, knowing also that I was modifying an expensive PSRU, that is no longer available for purchase. That gamble paid off for me and I proved that it can be done.
  So I would say that you gotta ask yourself whether this is something that you really want in your own installation and if yes then put that money down on a single rotor/stator and go to work to see if you can make it work for yourself on your own design.
  Then if you are as happy with it as I am with mine, you can figure out at what cost you can offer it as an option.
  If I were in your shoes I don't think that I would go to the trouble if your only motivation is to provide it as an option for others. But if like I said, you want this for yourself as well, then go for it and if successful and affordable, then others can have the option of one as well.

Todd

On Thu, Jun 14, 2018, 19:19 Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com, <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Todd,

                   From what I can gather  the ID of the stator is 2.77
inches.  Does that sound correct?    To land a unit from the US or buy
in OZ , the cost is  Pushing $375 AUD or $285 USD.  I have a little over
1.5 inches to mount in between the drive and the plate. Do you remember
what space you had?  Thanks,  Neil.

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