X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=Q9qQ2M+a c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=w5F0TksOm33KYKwAxlHbJA==:117 a=w5F0TksOm33KYKwAxlHbJA==:17 a=7mUfYlMuFuIA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=6Azz6AtYAAAA:20 a=ybZZDoGAAAAA:8 a=DmE-kScZAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=-6x_VoOxp7pc--EMnPYA:9 a=CuYaN06m0qvHdo28:21 a=TjLfAr5ZUo3cgWbz:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=4PR2P7QzAAAA:8 a=Ee-s-wy_RVmp2BKdai0A:9 a=oJd892QGZ06DtlVx:21 a=aHIvvN_cE3YbLnct:21 a=Ph7bJAddVP9TflOs:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=0RhZnL1DYvcuLYC8JZ5M:22 a=8l0Fykn6q59mmwej6vd0:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 a=4dqwQCo7Po2mVW515mGf:22 From: "Bruce Cosgrove bcosgrove@mac.com" Received: from ms11p00im-qufv17110601.me.com ([17.58.37.38] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.4) with ESMTPS id 11239811 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 10 Jun 2018 20:29:20 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=17.58.37.38; envelope-from=bcosgrove@mac.com Received: from process-dkim-sign-daemon.ms11p00im-qufv17110601.me.com by ms11p00im-qufv17110601.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) id <0PA400100RRTX300@ms11p00im-qufv17110601.me.com> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 00:29:03 +0000 (GMT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mac.com; s=04042017; t=1528676943; bh=PUKyRwffEn6XdsGAQaQQbGgn7THesL/KbtxlNfjc8UY=; h=Date:From:To:Message-id:Subject:MIME-version:Content-type; b=0kMCdnFAgEkXBO7XuCRqLbYnqrFCWlvIL8dVlAeQDlW3NYrTA04AflVclRudzkFcj Fm7D8fZbTpmjqwCr9f+n2KI9vqYdgjgcHsd6A+J7Jk9HBTJl5O9vEJnN6+ivQ2EUw7 9cid9yuYIq7YWJPdqs6tluj2uR3qfbKI6TbzpWhbwOWjBx+5MZXx0Mn1N8pBxUdb3I WYEjVFPZ85WrFwreWRE4PTFuiujM0LHd7CXQLmgDPKMZz2Nrr/8pDelNSg4CN9zUMY CvVPSoc62sGMplDM8q+ci3YyJS70EELdyj5VCOWsbxjGiztCq4fPmAMz6Dg6Bsn3pF IpZGDF01SoDMA== Received: from icloud.com ([127.0.0.1]) by ms11p00im-qufv17110601.me.com (Oracle Communications Messaging Server 8.0.1.2.20170607 64bit (built Jun 7 2017)) with ESMTPSA id <0PA400OKPUOA6E00@ms11p00im-qufv17110601.me.com> for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 11 Jun 2018 00:29:03 +0000 (GMT) X-Proofpoint-Virus-Version: vendor=fsecure engine=2.50.10432:,, definitions=2018-06-10_16:,, signatures=0 X-Proofpoint-Spam-Details: rule=notspam policy=default score=0 spamscore=0 clxscore=1015 suspectscore=18 malwarescore=0 phishscore=0 adultscore=0 bulkscore=0 classifier=spam adjust=0 reason=mlx scancount=1 engine=8.0.1-1707230000 definitions=main-1806110004 Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 10:28:59 +1000 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-id: In-reply-to: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: PSRU X-Mailer: Airmail (481) MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=5b1dc24b_ac731d6_e4cb --5b1dc24b_ac731d6_e4cb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline I am aware that there has been previous discussion on this forum around t= he Racemate PM alternator - although belt driven, another option if a Ren= esis version was developed by the manufacturer=21=21 =C2=A0 Bruce On 11 June 2018 at 09:01:47, Neil Unger 12348ung=40gmail.com (flyrotary=40= lancaironline.net) wrote: Todd, =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2= =A0=C2=A0 Have read your Blog and very impressive. However only one measu= rement that is of use -- the thickness of the pack.=C2=A0 Do you have by = any chance the internal measurement of the coil pack=3F=3F My cushion dri= ve has a 2 inch RHS =C2=A0 just where the coil pack would go.=C2=A0 Witho= ut measuring it I would guess a 3 inch=C2=A0 diameter, which may be too b= ig.=C2=A0 There are 3 places to fit the generator,=C2=A0 On the PSRU, the= back of the prop, and the front of the E shaft.=C2=A0 Now that will get = the =22canary=22 squawking.=C2=A0 Regards,=C2=A0 Neil. On 6/9/2018 6:07 PM, Todd Bartrim bartrim=40gmail.com wrote: Hi Neil; =C2=A0 It is probably too late for you to consider this in your design ho= wever I'll throw it out there anyways. =C2=A0A few years ago I modified my RD-1B to allow the installation of a = stator & rotor to have a back-up PM type of generator between the engine = and PSRU. I've got a few hours of ground running on this and it has run flawlessly.= It was a big job to retrofit it into my existing PSRU, but possibly not = be a big deal for you to add as an option on your unit. The full write up on how I did it along with parts etc. can be read here = in a PD=46 document. https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9-1Iqfk8J8ncDJTbGRZc3BmdlE/view=3Fusp=3D= sharing It might be worth considering, as I know that if I was in the market for = a PSRU, I'd certainly pay extra to have a built-in back-up power source. Todd Todd Bartrim On =46ri, Jun 8, 2018 at 7:33 PM, Neil Unger 12348ung=40gmail.com wrote: Martin, =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 There are wins and losses.=C2=A0 Basically in the=C2=A0= AUD market there are savings on freight and insurance is possibly unnece= ssary.=C2=A0 However I cop the freight components of parts from the USA w= hich is horrendous.=C2=A0 The same article cost double to get it freighte= d back from the USA as what it costs from OZ=C2=A0 to the US.=C2=A0 Howev= er that is all my problem, so a quick cost in OZ would be around =247000.= =C2=A0 I apologise for that cost,=C2=A0 But it is what it is.=C2=A0 I am = aware that an engine controller costs about half that, which all adds to = the cost.=C2=A0 Regards, Neil. On 6/9/2018 10:57 AM, Martin King martin.king=40pobox.com wrote: > Hello Neil > > What will it be in =24AUD =3F > > On Sat, 9 Jun 2018, 07:42 Neil Unger 12348ung=40gmail.com > > wrote: > > Gents, > > I can finally announce that I have overcome all hurdles and my PSRU > is ready for sale. It is almost a copy of Tracy's so will fit > exactly in the same mounting position and mounting holes. It differs > to Tracy's in that the cushion drive mounts directly onto the E > shaft, so puts no stress onto the flexplate. The cushion drive is > from vulcanized rubber and if the rubber disintegrates it then > becomes a metal to metal drive which will get you to the ground. The > input shaft is a one piece shaft so no possibility of the pin > shearing. Ratio is 3.17 ; 1 and the planetry housing is machined > from solid to ensure no failures. All based on the =46ord gears. I > should note a warning to any with a ford planetry that having > dismantled 8 of these (48 assemblies) I have found 2 sun gears with > one needle roller missing from the bearing set. Seems that the > mexicans or whoever puts these together is not checking as they go > together. This just worries me, but may not make much difference. > Prop shaft is on timken taper bearings, so end thrust is not a > problem and all lubricated with engine oil. Price for the first 5 is > =245500 USD which is slightly discounted due to damage in transit of > the alloy cushion drives. Mounting plate is an extra and sold by > Randy kempf. =46reight is =24300 and max insurance I can get for another > =24200 is =245000 AUD which is =243800 USD. Any interested let me or Randy > Kempf know as Randy is my distributor for the US market. His web > site is Either Rotarpower . net or na73x.wixsite.com= /rotarpower > This is breaking news, so > the web site has not yet caught up. Also looking at altering the > mounting plate as in shifting the starter motor to the bottom middle > to remove it from exhaust heat. Any thoughts on this=3F=3F MY thanks to > Tracy for his assistance who as we all know was years ahead of his > time. Neil Unger. > > > -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSu= b: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > oll --5b1dc24b_ac731d6_e4cb Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline