X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=Q9qQ2M+a c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=mdHa+A0GLP+cjuLk/I/T5w==:117 a=55z/sxGcUIPVrBMYBb4HRw==:17 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=_Z_nqdSeG58A:10 a=7mUfYlMuFuIA:10 a=r77TgQKjGQsHNAKrUKIA:9 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=n2pAewOQjwhE8YGbk1wA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=pgpExl52F3YvkEBXqKsA:9 a=89bZ62qlrNqVLLUQ:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 From: "Neil Unger 12348ung@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pf0-f179.google.com ([209.85.192.179] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.4) with ESMTPS id 11239628 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 10 Jun 2018 18:48:27 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.179; envelope-from=12348ung@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf0-f179.google.com with SMTP id a63-v6so9251364pfl.1 for ; Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:48:28 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-language; bh=TPalelUgbLD8aJ/SntMPL4J9uHx1Dv7DOmP6f36fpYo=; b=NbYrBJRXCY+Ibn+cGmcfSRI57fqoax1q9MhcjnUJ2pZhaIXuVhYdI37jGnabDjmihj 37UMq45z5b9lLQgnmvpV7lQSHvY9a3BWQ0B7Ps9CU71qHBMKU95EnkqmiYFVPJH2/TBm wrvwT0rZa/atHpbKMnMYGsX0IxzNTpR3aZfOZ12wuIkJCtvPLzPDjdK369zvljFFY/Ak ZvSn6W66XghL1qRyytn3ycpNcRLCygt1uA4sdzZbm38ax1fXl20PHzJGZAl0lElfnhgA 8ydkC651DkUuqPKqMSzguZL0vlzfFvx//n+Q3taher9dZa+fVQCvy70/0VF/1xVAwc+0 yTcg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-language; bh=TPalelUgbLD8aJ/SntMPL4J9uHx1Dv7DOmP6f36fpYo=; b=BytIPtd83HByjliqQEexkG74gX7H4n4RCBa3x0IF745saniGWnHhLN7kcEH/eGvpyT A0eE+knO/yb11OM4Z2eLyWbQLCunqLpJ4ys/hR8jhaGQqYioyYIWZWUu9x4CHXY7iyqp vh85rqhOMVdL8u1sCwmNyQeGgiLSmnw8eCTxNuoouQ+qR6VG0o/LHrxs+64/cqCwR+jn baA/ciqtGpdY1gMtq1y7IEvhI/F1LepZagCB13V5eW5STQzb33yxKytIr9BcQteiNlxz f1nFEvegDxQBvNpm+sOqJHPSZ2ciV163OGJ4n+FEj0KwvSJzyUjepQx0lP3JYM/tVC2X R6zA== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E3Gb+Sotut3sjUowRw3F/Dlr3yd1R537qqNtdJG7NgB9ftY8+pF BNoFNsuiDFV6hNjd6oMuqNRb7FZc X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKJX2k1DcO7+ZMwdFrFhcwkajJWtVGfpRouihu8SoMa4XQrfq12S76Bzb7ezz3PjXWtEpzfiVg== X-Received: by 2002:aa7:8386:: with SMTP id u6-v6mr14990334pfm.253.1528670890063; Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:48:10 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: <12348ung@gmail.com> Received: from [192.168.0.103] ([103.198.24.78]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k80-v6sm90306946pfa.168.2018.06.10.15.48.07 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sun, 10 Jun 2018 15:48:08 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Rotary fit out To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <721d654c-6dea-189a-810d-6a8c4897e860@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 11 Jun 2018 08:46:50 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------04D699B483DCE24BF2332B7B" Content-Language: en-US This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------04D699B483DCE24BF2332B7B Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Group,                   Have discussed many times as to the reasons why rotarys  are not the first choice for builders.  While not really cheap by the time they are ready to fly., they are indestructible (within reason). The general consensus seems to end up with the conclusion that builders have had enough by the time it comes to an engine install, then --- another 1000 hours.  So they take the shortcut and buy a quick solution.  I really like Chris's solution  in reality a FWF package. While Chris is spilling secrets, I also dream of a single rotor FWF package for the lighter builders (UP to 150 HP).  Having said that, both have a common problem, the rotary exhaust noise and heat.  Cooling is no longer a problem.  The answer to both is a turbo not to overly boost but to normalise at altitude.  The turbo eliminates the need to P port as well. It gives many options as per HP and gives an acceptable exhaust noise.     The main answer is as I said a FWF package on the market at a realistic price.  Go Chris. Neil Unger. On 6/11/2018 7:47 AM, Christian christamarmc@gmail.com wrote: > Hey all Just throwing it out there. What's the thoughts on small > production of engine mounts to suit the rv6,7 for the 13b renises, > also cowls, and efi and turbo setup to suit. Also bell housings. My > 13 b is currently out to get some cracks repaired on one of the gear > leg mounts, ( cracked due to the gear leg being to stiff) Plane > currently has approx 700hrs now and was going well. All temps were > under control. Small history 13b renises pp Custom efi Modified > james cowls > > 172ktas with free flowing exhaust, high fuel burn 155 Ktas with > restrictive exhaust under cowl > > Plans > > 13b renises with turbo with small boost Simple new efi Neil's new > Psru Bellhousing to suit Radiators and all gear to fit the rv > > I welcome all insights and thoughts > > Cheers Christian Rv7 13b renises > > Sent from my iPad -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive > and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html is is spilling secrets ice --------------04D699B483DCE24BF2332B7B Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Group,

                  Have discussed many times as to the reasons why rotarys  are not the first choice for builders.  While not really cheap by the time they are ready to fly., they are indestructible (within reason).

The general consensus seems to end up with the conclusion that builders have had enough by the time it comes to an engine install, then --- another 1000 hours.  So they take the shortcut and buy a quick solution.  I really like Chris's solution  in reality a FWF package. While Chris is spilling secrets, I also dream of a single rotor FWF package for the lighter builders (UP to 150 HP).  Having said that, both have a common problem, the rotary exhaust noise and heat.  Cooling is no longer a problem.  The answer to both is a turbo not to overly boost but to normalise at altitude.  The turbo eliminates the need to P port as well. It gives many options as per HP and gives an acceptable exhaust noise.
    The main answer is as I said a FWF package on the market at a realistic price.  Go Chris.
Neil Unger.


On 6/11/2018 7:47 AM, Christian christamarmc@gmail.com wrote:
> Hey all Just throwing it out there. What's the thoughts on small > production of engine mounts to suit the rv6,7 for the 13b renises, > also cowls, and efi and turbo setup to suit. Also bell housings. My > 13 b is currently out to get some cracks repaired on one of the gear > leg mounts, ( cracked due to the gear leg being to stiff) Plane > currently has approx 700hrs now and was going well. All temps were > under control. Small history 13b renises pp Custom efi Modified > james cowls > > 172ktas with free flowing exhaust, high fuel burn 155 Ktas with > restrictive exhaust under cowl > > Plans > > 13b renises with turbo with small boost Simple new efi Neil's new > Psru Bellhousing to suit Radiators and all gear to fit the rv > > I welcome all insights and thoughts > > Cheers Christian Rv7 13b renises > > Sent from my iPad -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive > and UnSub: > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html
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