X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=Q9qQ2M+a c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=lhC8jI9inzCNA/sfSJWlfw==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=xXDCcK6TKBsA:10 a=7mUfYlMuFuIA:10 a=jJrOw3FHAAAA:8 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=6mvNDNRGAAAA:20 a=l0Bw14eBAAAA:20 a=9_Fy2W4rAAAA:20 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=U9p1A-hTPcjuE-cCf6gA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=-FEs8UIgK8oA:10 a=NWVoK91CQyQA:10 a=oHvirCaBAAAA:8 a=2eSV5iQdU3Kglvb9k9YA:9 a=JrY2mBKUe3FjpfKJ:21 a=lsIkP6lG2H4f0j7eDx0G:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 From: "Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com" Received: from mail-wm0-f49.google.com ([74.125.82.49] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.4) with ESMTPS id 11230615 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 03:31:41 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.82.49; envelope-from=bartrim@gmail.com Received: by mail-wm0-f49.google.com with SMTP id n5-v6so1721866wmc.5 for ; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 00:31:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=rF0FzYmwqAXyL1kVYxNi5LfRQiVNYBe4SED5xQIWWV8=; b=BVP9CtC1XXQuCyp85qD5FhEbUGE2wb/l7rIhqWDtqwFfh/4ts8bLUK+5Ns1kchSY0q cOigiFqunqUmEalGjJfAj1PSBvuSHg+JibOtfR+YL1/Lpt6kL51ozSUP1b8Dh1IQ7Bmb FNz26c7/20GeqYSIZken8u1tiaC9ti5219tNCfhYoGk4Exfg0GRe0wvPAoxTcfSUgPqd dwHhv4pzERMzgre+CRVZuJb7ZUKdAdjDTUavwRdLWwBKpEGfMnBVOllRpDS6PS1M9Vn+ NX7cbVPMj6Qo3Reb8HooKdwA9wr0LyakaXQja5N7KalTzijXe+17+SEXxonUNuYShmUE kMMg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=rF0FzYmwqAXyL1kVYxNi5LfRQiVNYBe4SED5xQIWWV8=; b=F2CZNlK1uzWV1tpfiVC549Yk+PEzP2iNzu0klsEEgKZtqjInvm8BpMknb409kUXw2N tw2h9SBrxnArKyeGd0fQQWsGcHMP2zOpQrTt9CDIQoJST8GoGXJfKAbtVG2yDDnqxoQ/ vaX4fP9YPjLieLdk19BhSaTO/pyH2nWh3FsoP2sZ7hg0H++8RC0zv1AEe7Gfbphshm3L 5kmENqXcj5cZsRwOv5oJy6T669kngv40ihc/+QuRlL2DMuexcd8eGnLuFlgp8djkkG1W 8sgSkrQgJDZTPSArgoQeiaKiySRkS+ZS+c6psG8AZtm8xGBy13Xil+NP8o1z1aPp25ch fYmw== X-Gm-Message-State: APt69E2dIzwuWwgSBKPHPjtl1haV0uxJRcuuis4TOAIKmcvNWiGRy/0q p11J/CdKYW5SOkwwUevjKP/m9Ze2CsJ6l9kx6/y8 X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKKyt9olya93K8yblVQILRaDXsc1XuuaEWlQGJif6sFovax6FW4H6wA4Ho0DGOojh7b96GsbTwVE7KPg6342Kog= X-Received: by 2002:aa7:c147:: with SMTP id r7-v6mr6213447edp.143.1528443083963; Fri, 08 Jun 2018 00:31:23 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 2002:a50:f5ef:0:0:0:0:0 with HTTP; Fri, 8 Jun 2018 00:31:23 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2018 00:31:23 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Project update To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="000000000000143fe4056e1c639c" --000000000000143fe4056e1c639c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Thanks for the compliments, I'm pretty pleased with new look myself. It is not pleasant to taxi at the moment because the brakes have not been "conditioned" yet and I can't hold it at more than 1/2 throttle with full weight on the brakes, so differential braking is difficult and I expected more steering out of the tailwheel. Those big tires have very little rolling resistance, which will be nice, but right now with poor braking they sure don't help. When I first taxied as a tricyle gear it was at the airport so I had room to properly "condition" the brakes and the little 5x5 wheels didn't have much torque, so I really don't recall much concern. Right now it is a real challenge, but I'm confident that will improve. Oh yeah, then there's that visibilty thing! Still, I'm confident that I made the right choice and will enjoy this much more. As far as wheel pants go, I'm not going to worry about that. I'll eat the drag penalty in exchange for being able to go more places. Right now I'm more concerned with finishing the wheel-skis so I can do stuff like this https://youtu.be/vJ9seJWaoc8 That's the end goal. Todd Bartrim On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 7:18 PM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > On 6/7/2018 5:54 PM, Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com wrote: > > Hey Guys; > Some of you may recall that I was ready to bring my project back to the > airport last summer when I posted the following video. > https://photos.app.goo.gl/j5uxgvtHyzWJZgHE2 > Unfortunately due to a bad forest fire season that forced the > relocation of another water-bomber base to my local airport which was > already busy with our own base, there simply was not any room for me not to > mention the fact they would likely not have had much patience for my test > flying with the constant airtanker traffic. > So what to do... well at about 1 minute into the above video you can > see how easily my little nose wheel gets stuck in a minor soft spot on the > lawn. This confirmed my long held belief that I'd built the wrong plane for > me, but what to do about it now...? > > So I got rid of the damn little wheel and put an even smaller one way > back at the other end, then not satisfied with that I put a set of 22' > Tundra tires up front where they belong! The following video shows the new > RV9. > https://photos.app.goo.gl/52jOTfy0HZxqd6x02 > I did make a few tweaks etc. on the engine, but it's largely unchanged > from last year. But despite not being run since last summer, it fired up > like I'd ran it yesterday. > I also added a small hydraulic landing gear pump and ran all the lines > down to the wheels to operate a set of retractable wheel skis that I'm > currently working on for next winter. > > While I was at it, I decided it was time for a new look, so I removed > much of the old vinyl and bought a small desktop vinyl cutter and did all > the graphics too. Of particular interest to the group though, would be this > graphic > https://photos.app.goo.gl/HwVA2GdIAr8sQWCR2 > Quite a few years ago there was a T-shirt discussion here on the group and > a few designs were proposed. I believe that this design was drawn by George > Lendich from down under back in 2010. > He had submitted the design to CafePress and I'd actually bought a couple. > I couldn't find the image file so I took a screenshot from the CafePress > website as it's still there, then turned it into a vector graphic, which I > could use with my vinyl cutter. > So if anybody else would like the image file for this, i'd be happy to > share it. Of coarse maybe we should ask George, but it seems he made his > last post here back in late 2010. > Heck I'd even cut some decals and send for free to anybody that wants one > for their own project. > > > Todd Bartrim (got to learn to fly a taildragger now) > C-FSTB > RV9 no more "a" > Turbo13B > > Lookin' goooood! That's how an RV is supposed to look. :-) And if you can > ice skate & swat a little black thing around at the same time, you won't > have any trouble learning to fly it. Do you think a pair of RV-10 wheel > pants will cover those tires? > > I'm impressed that you can make a frustrating delay so productive. > > Don't lose that scan; when I get a bit closer to flying, I'd like to get a > copy. > > Charlie > > > Virus-free. > www.avast.com > > <#m_-8444975304070175784_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > --000000000000143fe4056e1c639c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Thanks for the compliments, I'm pretty pleased with ne= w look myself.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 It is not pleasant to taxi at the moment b= ecause the brakes have not been "conditioned" yet and I can't= hold it at more than 1/2 throttle with full weight on the brakes, so diffe= rential braking is difficult and I expected more steering out of the tailwh= eel. Those big tires have very little rolling resistance, which will be nic= e, but right now with poor braking they sure don't help. When I first t= axied as a tricyle gear it was at the airport so I had room to properly &qu= ot;condition" the brakes and the little 5x5 wheels didn't have muc= h torque, so I really don't recall much concern. Right now it is a real= challenge, but I'm confident that will improve. Oh yeah, then there= 9;s that visibilty thing! Still, I'm confident that I made the right ch= oice and will enjoy this much more.

As far as whee= l pants go, I'm not going to worry about that. I'll eat the drag pe= nalty in exchange for being able to go more places. Right now I'm more = concerned with finishing the wheel-skis so I can do stuff like this
https://youtu.be/vJ9seJWaoc8
=
Todd Bartrim

On Thu, Jun 7, 2018 at 7:18 PM, Charlie Engl= and ceengland7@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
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On 6/7/2018 5:54 P= M, Todd Bartrim bartrim@gmail.com wrote:
Hey Guys;
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Some of you may recall that I was ready to bring = my project back to the airport last summer when I posted the following video.=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0Unfortunately due to a bad forest fire season tha= t forced the relocation of another water-bomber base to my local airport which was already busy with our own base, there simply was not any room for me not to mention the fact they would likely not have had much patience for my test flying with the constant airtanker traffic.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0So what to do... well at about 1 minute into the = above video you can see how easily my little nose wheel gets stuck in a minor soft spot on the lawn. This confirmed my long held belief that I'd built the wrong plane for me, but what to do about it now...?

=C2=A0 =C2=A0So I got rid of the damn little wheel and put an = even smaller one way back at the other end, then not satisfied with that I put a set of 22' Tundra tires up front where they belong! The following video shows the new RV9.=C2=A0
=C2=A0 =C2=A0I did make a few tweaks etc. on the engine, but i= t's largely unchanged from last year. But despite not being run since last summer, it fired up like I'd ran it yesterday.
=C2=A0 I also added a small hydraulic landing gear pump and ra= n all the lines down to the wheels to operate a set of retractable wheel skis that I'm currently working on for next winter.
=C2=A0=C2=A0
=C2=A0While I was at it,=C2=A0 I decided it was time for a new= look, so I removed much of the old vinyl and bought a small desktop vinyl cutter and did all the graphics too. Of particular interest to the group though, would be this graphic
Quite a few years ago there was a T-shirt discussion here on the group and a few designs were proposed. I believe that this design was drawn by George Lendich from down under back in 2010.
He had submitted the design to CafePress and I'd actually bought a couple. I couldn't find the image file so I took a screenshot from the CafePress website as it's still there, then turned it into a vector graphic, which I could use with my vinyl cutter.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0So if anybody else would like the image file for = this, i'd be happy to share it. Of coarse maybe we should ask George, but it seems he made his last post here back in late 2010.
Heck I'd even cut some decals and send for free to anybody that wants one for their own project.


Todd Bartrim=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0(got to learn = to fly a taildragger now)
C-FSTB
RV9 no more "a"
Turbo13B
 Lookin' goooood! That's how an RV is supposed to look. :-) And = if you can ice skate & swat a little black thing around at the same time, you won't have any trouble learning to fly it. Do you think a pair of RV-10 wheel pants will cover those tires?

I'm impressed that you can make a frustrating delay so productive. =

Don't lose that scan; when I get a bit closer to flying, I'd li= ke to get a copy.

Charlie
3D"" Virus-free. www.avast.com

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