X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=DpUUwy3+ c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=hefqDoz8KgZhZfddZ6GK3A==:117 a=h2+r0h3JYgF4a6jAsz2Y8Q==:17 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=CKeqCrOqW6IA:10 a=7mUfYlMuFuIA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=7g1VtSJxAAAA:8 a=aDXi9La_XdfnrgnCALIA:9 a=Ci33FZRh54xA4L0k:21 a=VlOgVCN7o-fWOE4v:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=Qa1je4BO31QA:10 a=gvSQh4r-fQ0A:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=grOzbf7U_OpcSX4AJOnl:22 From: "Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com" Received: from mail-pf0-f181.google.com ([209.85.192.181] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.4) with ESMTPS id 11208184 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 04:24:16 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.181; envelope-from=stephen.izett@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf0-f181.google.com with SMTP id a22-v6so389566pfo.12 for ; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 01:24:18 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=K2oeCtJH0BuVCaAcqhKplj5r8DKagwNMCTtAwPp1YUg=; b=bMmnOxr1hpUYRfCmtrWxcZbsED+f0FC4Xgeo5FYKOaJKX0Lzka8Jn2qVLmK8LujBJ6 D9+fPdRrzhZH9/SrK0jBymgINWOqsHj3AVkw29E8E4waMb0S2CvFuIxXxRYY4Gk/yE7u otcWRXrToTXecdAf6qZux22i5/TNAdijyd5RmNntiT9/PMXpDQc8H4Gb8gyTsf7zPdfr aITn1jg4zi1WNYs48N/v76E/kn1GbMMjBuS0xhyPTQDyBbdDlqferSuxe8kUWJOg+VbG V8U2XJA7mADfg9WMmo9Hp9PEgzUz/U8x4cwMFZmy7Jvy1kOZ3Nyul6NCimdREuPowVEe 1wbA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to:message-id; bh=K2oeCtJH0BuVCaAcqhKplj5r8DKagwNMCTtAwPp1YUg=; b=APCjWGNcB0U51QPeCtc7wfmcrbcGUcGlAuwD+FhMD2cGjer8Iq4DiRmsLq8c7YrLws sGTQxplceoXJ6VZ5RZYPcuBXNgtVHHKJgOwa4n8mUhuU29akD3grnNEI5Zf4wcoQ31g4 95PdpuqApaSZ4mkWQ9kBk2yIoz1zur0WaxIK1NlQfYCcQYL1+/8vRiPAcf6vQ7ZLZQKM FfKrU62vfqjTS/++kgyFjpGprNUw+jhfRsJ19KYjcsQotFZvxJQ83tHGAAgUrmrrpMrb JW38bwNpoURWFRqt3oObdDRkZ3wgcaLnKUYnUp41gKBmW4icvik5le540pQ8wrLqNz7B LNzA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALKqPweqIaRl1j5DSvHVhPtddx3ZxR8Hn5HSkP651qFu/2LF6CDz0Twe NwWDPBMqPcN7oWjyZeF0v/0gPWyY X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADUXVKK1Y2ofv8pzmHh9bohs1xf6Q1B4i1ZV/zlSrRBmJg/QLYeZxEJWovIiKsqn/H5Md2gmkOlGzw== X-Received: by 2002:aa7:82c7:: with SMTP id f7-v6mr13866189pfn.218.1527927840145; Sat, 02 Jun 2018 01:24:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from steves-mbp.lan ([118.208.57.146]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m17-v6sm35965134pgd.52.2018.06.02.01.23.58 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 02 Jun 2018 01:23:59 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.3 \(3445.6.18\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Wiring ec2 to em3 Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2018 16:23:55 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: Message-Id: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.6.18) Hi Alex Thanks, we=E2=80=99ll soon see which decisions where wise and which were = expensive! I have the EM3 instructions as a word file that is 8.5MB. Can I have your address to pm you. Hopefully your provider can handle that file size. Could you take a photo of your EM3 so I can see what you have. =46rom memory all EM3 wiring was to the 4 terminal strips. There should be: 1. Power and Earth. 2. Serial link to EC2 3. Connections to EM3 head unit 4. All the sensors I=E2=80=99ll send the file as soon as I have your address Here is the terminal breakdown of the AQM Cheers Steve Izett AQM TERMINAL BLOCK ASSIGNMENTS TERMINAL SIGNAL DESTINATION TB1-1 N/U NOT USED TB1-2 FUEL PRESSURE FUEL PRESSURE SENSOR TERMINAL TB1-3 GROUND AIR DATA SENSOR GROUND (PIN 2 ON = ALL) TB1-4 N/C NOT USED TB1-5 OUTSIDE AIR TEMP OAT SENSOR PIN 2 (WHITE WIRE) TB1-6 OIL PRESSURE SENSOR OIL PRESSURE SENSOR TERMINAL TB1-7 COOLANT PRESSURE COOLANT PRESSURE TERMINAL TB1-8 O2 SENSOR/MIX O2 SENSOR LEAD TB1-9 TAS (OPTIONAL) TAS SENSOR PIN 1 TB1-10 OIL TEMP OIL TEMP SENSOR TERMINAL TB1-11 LEFT FUEL LEFT FUEL TANK SENSOR TB1-12 +5 Pwr FOR OAT & air OAT RED WIRE & POWER AIR DATA = SENSORS IF EQUIPPED TB1-13 ALTITUDE ALTITUDE SENSOR PIN 1 TB1-14 N/C NOT USED TB1-15 RIGHT FUEL tank RIGHT FUEL SENSOR or (MAP sensor on = non EC3 eng) TB1-16 COOLANT TEMP COOLANT TEMP SENSOR TERMINAL=20 =20 TB2-1 & TB3-1 CHT8 RED,WHITE J TYPE THERMOCOUPLE TB2-2 & TB3-2 CHT6 RED,WHITE J TB2-3 & TB3-3 CHT4 RED,WHITE J TB2-4 & TB3-4 CHT1 RED,WHITE J =20 TB2-5 & TB3-5 CHT2 RED,WHITE J TB2-8 & TB3-6 CHT3 RED,WHITE J TB2-7 & TB3-7 CHT5 RED,WHITE J TB2-8 & TB3-8 CHT7 RED,WHITE J =20 TB2-9 & TB3-9 EGT8 RED,YELLOW K TYPE THERMOCOUPLE TB2-10 & TB3-10 EGT6 RED,YELLOW K TB2-11 & TB3-11 EGT4 RED,YELLOW K TB2-12 & TB3-12 EGT1 RED,YELLOW K TB2-13 & TB3-13 EGT2 RED,YELLOW K TB2-14 & TB3-14 EGT3 RED,YELLOW K TB2-15 & TB3-15 EGT5 RED,YELLOW K TB2-16 & TB3-16 EGT7 RED,YELLOW K =20 TB4-1 OAT BIAS BLACK LEAD ON OAT SENSOR TB4-2 LYC. TACH P-LEAD ON MAG (Lycoming only, no = ec3 controller) TB4-3 TACH & FUEL FLOW SENSE FUEL INJECTOR 1 LEAD ON EC3 & FUEL = INJECTOR TB4-4 SERIAL DATA IN SERIAL OUT FROM EC3(J2-13) or = EC2(J1-7) TB4-5 N/C TB4-6 N/C TB4-7 GROUND GROUND ON AIRFRAME NEAR AQM TB4-8 +12 POWER AVIONICS POWER BUS (SWITCHED) TB4-9 VOLTAGE SENSE MAIN POWER BUS (TO SENSE SYSTEM = VOLTAGE) TB4-10 SERIAL DATA OUT SERIAL IN TO EC3(J2-12) or = EC2(J1-27)=20 TB4-11 N/C TB4-12 DISP DATA OUT PIN 5 ON EM3 DISPLAY CONNECTOR J1 TB4-13 Vss/GROUND PIN 17 ON EM3 DISPLAY CONNECTOR J1 TB4-14 DISP DATA IN PIN 7 ON EM3 DISPLAY CONNECTOR J1 TB4-15 DISP DATA CLOCK PIN 6 ON EM3 DISPLAY CONNECTOR J1 TB4-16 +5 POWER FOR OAT SENSOR RED WIRE ON OAT SENSOR > On 2 Jun 2018, at 1:13 pm, alex alex.molteno@gmail.com = wrote: >=20 > Thank you Steve=20 >=20 > My EM3 has no DB plug mounted on the side of the box for wiring, like = the EC2 has. >=20 > I assume we have to solder a ribbon to the board inside and run it out = whichever side of the box is convenient for mounting. I suspect I wasn't = sure on my mounting location when I bought it, so asked Tracy not to = wire it yet. Do you have a pic of that wiring from the board to outside = the box? >=20 > Tracy gave me a printed manual, I'm just not sure where I put it, I = moved a lot of stuff around in anticipation of hurricane Irma last = season. >=20 > If you have a PDF of the EM3 manual, that would help loads, >=20 > Thanks Steve, good luck with getting the Glasair dialed in, >=20 > Alex >=20 > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, 11:04 Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = wrote: > Hi Alex > Do you have the EC2 and EM3 install documents? >=20 > For the EM3 to talk to an EC2 it needs a serial link which requires = the two connections below plus a common earth=20 > EM3 TB4-4 SERIAL DATA IN SERIAL OUT FROM = EC2(J1-pin 7) > EM3 TB4-10 SERIAL DATA OUT SERIAL IN TO = EC2(J1-pin 27)=20 >=20 > Steve Izett > > On 1 Jun 2018, at 10:44 pm, Stephen Izett stephen.izett@gmail.com = wrote: > >=20 > > Hi Alex > > In case Tracy is not around, what do you not understand re EC2 = talking to EM3? > > Steve Izett > >=20 > >> On 1 Jun 2018, at 10:33 pm, alex alex.molteno@gmail.com = wrote: > >>=20 > >> Hi Tracy, are you around FL area still, I need advice to wire up = the ec2 to em3, or ill be happy to send the em3 to you as well if that's = an option > >>=20 > >> Thanks, > >>=20 > >> Alex > >=20 > >=20 > > -- > > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html