X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=K8pgJGeI c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=alRGTaIxqRBZ8LLUBq+zEQ==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=ad1WmcueCrwA:10 a=RgaUWeydRksA:10 a=bsATwsvZAAAA:8 a=o1OHuDzbAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=69EAbJreAAAA:8 a=xPyZ54XvAAAA:8 a=cS1O6La22Vg8WTvhayAA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=JDByV_woBQNiGUPdOnoA:9 a=wkwJPIMPGaSCUD-N:21 a=HfdpfQiixUcA:10 a=YgZUEpoybBZZp_vkc61X:22 a=5YQ6H4ZxyGn-KoBYtt8s:22 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 a=LQCduUwlY3eUW_MavTj7:22 From: "William Jepson wrjjrs@gmail.com" Received: from mail-wr0-f172.google.com ([209.85.128.172] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2.1) with ESMTPS id 10615319 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 14:14:15 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.128.172; envelope-from=wrjjrs@gmail.com Received: by mail-wr0-f172.google.com with SMTP id f11so1748978wre.4 for ; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 11:14:15 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=r8DLQZwHHEy7LXY6HNE30vEM6Zv9td0N33mBPoIYnLI=; b=pYJ/SBVlids9DMTn416yqH6Ccq0P0mPDpy25mj3nHo5jHYEO4WqlKuOcPuUlVWGj84 wlnKOUss/lt9LbQbKzk79XPG5MrUB/uQww5cCxxFzUlpaQDzi86Qr+U5jkwhv58Z+L/M NJUmB4LqVjtmaRtSV4FAxKHbe5JC5ed5Zqinf/CG3571JkgcRnlRfcpMdya3gbe2GF5K lWJY1TKYPL4UJkwsU0TkK6qqLfBXDwiSRDq//tDB7vZQDgoK4vEdq7LJ985sMkLAJb4+ nYqmF/qdNqNfsZT9DmRixkh1MQHCbeTATmWs5fPFKsUN08gMKIgxB4ILHVFI8yqPsoYR TSyw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=r8DLQZwHHEy7LXY6HNE30vEM6Zv9td0N33mBPoIYnLI=; b=L8RLWUIpYYSZnMtga25FqpIJPaRBXHljiFRFoQJ1xEVN8wlsWajEJvVIbh8Pw0FNPH uochGftojzc1c6d+0CUBSQJvbSxf/ZEUXlZrL1HnxA9nomJtZ6vUHxCdCURFM5LuXb74 pxrcpZcb9h/KeZDb1vmgo4szDR3equ2M6oX98fF+xne3uKdoa6HQAV8ma1zMeSfWXAvH XbX2omXu4Ve29GcZKPenQDNSrMma++CsXKlWLc2n2VKLOXadRSzTUrHwfqwh/b50azK/ h3WHIOtvJCQN+WvjqasmJe5uuBZrp37UKxz8c0ZWY603YjlHtZzjRB1Piz9euSLo/R7L fHGg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytcLzTdFJGjdvjuA45d34giFlkyI8OHYy9TBNG0F/EPyyL3dFytZ DK7m5j9jXcheSmAbAbTtaE2rpZ1OJDx9Q59Z5XmPgg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AH8x224cb0OzzgqsbfHdvin9joEzhhnaXJjx5zPoSU9lxs+jVjkQRett6YlGa7auj+fnaPDYi54FLfFEleybjiuyIBQ= X-Received: by 10.223.135.135 with SMTP id b7mr3501969wrb.204.1516734836714; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 11:13:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.107.93 with HTTP; Tue, 23 Jan 2018 11:13:56 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2018 11:13:56 -0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Simple bullet proof Ignition systems? To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11493fa229313b05637659c1" --001a11493fa229313b05637659c1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Guys, I don't know if he is still offering it but SDSEFI (Simple Digital Systems, www.SDSEFI.com) has both an ignition only system and a full engine management system that will work for a 13B. His system doesn't have split firing, but most people running a high performance rotary do both plugs at once anyway. He has a newer dual in one box system, FOR AIRCRAFT that could be run simultaneously to do a split fire and be fully redundant. Bill Jepson On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 6:08 AM, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net < flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote: > Maybe someone out there has a RWS original ignition controller they want > to let go of. No programming required, uses 13-B standard pickup and > ignition coils. Of course you'll have to use carburetor(s). > > I have one, but really don't want to let go if it. Its simplicity is nice > if just want to get 13-B running. (All you have to do is set timing and > tune carburetors.) > > Finn > > On 1/22/2018 11:31 PM, william Aldridge willja67@hotmail.com wrote: > > I'm building a one off experimental, therefore, i need a simple bullet > proof Ignition system and am wondering what is currently available? I have > the 2007 version of Tracy's conversion manual in which he gives the option > of either using the stock distributor etc, or use a computerized ignition > system with stock or Chevy ls coils. > > To reiterate, since the airframe is unproven i only want to be worried > about flying the plane not the engine. It's a small plane the size that > would normally have 100hp installed (1200 lbs gross) so if I only have 150 > hp I'll still be doing good. In other words I'm willing to sacrifice a > little power for a lot of reliability and simplicity. > > I don't like the idea of the stock distributor, since there isn't much > room in the cowl and there's no redundancy. I also don't like the idea of > electronic ignition. I've read enough stories of lengthy battles to get the > computers to play nice with the engine and don't want to go that route. > Again simplicity and reliability at the expense of power and fuel > efficiency is what I'm after. Also planning on using a carb for the same > reason. I can always upgrade the engine later if i want. > > I figure there has to have been some other options come up in the last 10 > years. I used to subscribe to the other guys list, but don't know if any of > the ideas he put forth have merit. > > Thanks, > Will Aldridge > > Ps my build thread on hba here: http://www.homebuiltairplanes.com/forums/ > showthread.php?t=16831 > > > > Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone > > > --001a11493fa229313b05637659c1 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Guys, I don't know if he is still offering it but SDSE= FI (Simple Digital Systems, www.SDSEFI.co= m) has both an ignition only system and a full engine management system= that will work for a 13B. His system doesn't have split firing, but mo= st people running a high performance rotary do both plugs at once anyway. H= e has a newer dual in one box system, FOR AIRCRAFT that could be run simult= aneously to do a split fire and be fully redundant.
Bill Jepson=C2=A0=C2=A0

On Tue, Jan 23, 2018 at 6:08 AM, Finn Lassen finn.lassen@verizon.net <flyrotary@la= ncaironline.net> wrote:
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Maybe someone out = there has a RWS original ignition controller they want to let go of. No programming required, uses 13-B standard pickup and ignition coils. Of course you'll have to use carburetor(s).

I have one, but really don't want to let go if it. Its simplicity is nice if just want to get 13-B running. (All you have to do is set timing and tune carburetors.)

Finn

On 1/22/2018 11:31 PM, william Aldridge willja67@hotmail.com wrote:
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=C2=A0I'm building a one off experimental, therefore, i need= a simple bullet proof Ignition system and am wondering what is currently available?=C2=A0 I have the 2007 version of Tracy's conversion manual in which he gives the option of either using the stock distributor etc, or use a computerized ignition system with stock or Chevy ls coils.=C2=A0

To reiterate, since the airframe is unproven i only want to be worried about flying the plane not the engine. It's a small plane the size that would normally have 100hp installed (1200 lbs gross) so if I only have 150 hp I'll still be doing good. I= n other words I'm willing to sacrifice a little power for a lot o= f reliability and simplicity.=C2=A0

I don't like the idea of the stock distributor, since there isn't much room in the cowl and there's no redundancy. I al= so don't like the idea of electronic ignition. I've read enoug= h stories of lengthy battles to get the computers to play nice with the engine and don't want to go that route. Again simplicity and reliability at the expense of power and fuel efficiency is what I'm after. Also planning on using a carb for the same reason. I can always upgrade the engine later if i want.=C2=A0

I figure there has to have been some other options come up in the last 10 years. I used to subscribe to the other guys list, but don't know if any of the ideas he put forth have merit.=C2= =A0

Thanks,=C2=A0
Will Aldridge=C2=A0




Sent from m= y Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone



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