X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=JJZ5iICb c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=+j05dYLBoR31WUSBNlJFog==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=khwyK8DuSVkA:10 a=sC3jslCIGhcA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=Ia-xEzejAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=eXaGDyGtJi-Wl-uj8e8A:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=ThO7yg82tkim_aujcdQA:9 a=faB9wra6de3VYS92:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 a=Urk15JJjZg1Xo0ryW_k8:22 From: "David COOK hoursaway1@comcast.net" Received: from resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.36] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c5) with ESMTPS id 10329762 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 17 Nov 2017 22:25:24 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.252.207.36; envelope-from=hoursaway1@comcast.net Received: from resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net ([69.252.207.107]) by resqmta-ch2-04v.sys.comcast.net with ESMTP id FtkWew3I2rZjsFtkieQgir; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 03:25:08 +0000 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=comcast.net; s=q20161114; t=1510975508; bh=KWqf/0LIUIIU1HFSBMzjB3lN3UuaFbdAhmqTflC476U=; h=Received:Received:Date:From:Reply-To:To:Message-ID:Subject: MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=NQ+szpP9XtEzUVEOL98pa0nvb/+f8Mz7+JDpzoCkPondAQNAGl3i8rDDVPR1VcqAS MigRKj8hrb7bWcE7RTpihJSybAZYQ1JY97x4ZAfW9TjzxYxu/3eq04/7ECzYoE1QEY VvKnJ6EoZqur/xJwuY2A7hQ5iEtx0eAOAwPlN61K7AaavIrvFtI5wbDSFRrQTatqtP 6J7KNaJfRBZMV4/vNGHTyAkkGmeUhKwLQvb2umElJP+Iq7rvcRHxlUxPj3q22Ew9Eo SII2sYQaPQsXEKL5tL19tymtbmRuSf4NktBHlRzhN/aQO0h8vugUsyclKE1QM5E6kV 4qYdmeAD/q+9A== Received: from oxapp-ch2h-41o.email.comcast.net ([96.118.146.168]) by resomta-ch2-11v.sys.comcast.net with SMTP id FtkheX6yPgNOhFtkiekKpH; Sat, 18 Nov 2017 03:25:08 +0000 Date: Fri, 17 Nov 2017 22:25:07 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: David COOK To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: <786573129.79247.1510975507940@connect.xfinity.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: pre-filter for injection pump? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_79246_381606586.1510975507931" X-Priority: 3 Importance: Medium X-Mailer: Open-Xchange Mailer v7.8.4-Rev12 X-Originating-IP: ::ffff:68.49.229.174 X-Originating-Client: open-xchange-appsuite X-CMAE-Envelope: MS4wfEHUa0RY3KR3uXtrXfeDwYKXren/x0Yc8AmNjBJsAnAaHojpqPBJxt9QYx0TCzUTdhUGcNeqtJe/lOZ6gqgQpbA2qObhujHRPVSwAhQczwrxpK5+adCS VW9cHvXxDaE19+qD3YRkcZeELiMue5URwANPwFYMrEq7KeYnqD/WEsBkLvtl6exvhqHqMlEqwW4DvkGKSFQUtZhaDP+A267k0a0= ------=_Part_79246_381606586.1510975507931 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Do not forget, you can't pull a vacuum on a liquid, the fluid will draw itself through (maybe not 60GPH = 3/8" line but 20GPH = 3/8" line sure = $$ fuel bill ). David R. Cook RV6A Rotary. > On November 17, 2017 at 10:06 AM "Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com" wrote: > > Hey Ron, are you running yours yet? I just did a quick & dirty gravity flow test on mine, & I'm getting around 35 seconds to flow 16 ounces. If my math's right, that's only about 13 gal/hr, & the Walbros will be pulling 3 or 4 times that flow. Now I'm wondering how much pressure drop will show up between the filter & the Walbro. > > On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 2:23 PM, Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com mailto:ceengland7@gmail.com wrote: > > > > Excellent idea. I think I can work with that, so I may just use the glass filter. At least there's a chance I can place it so it's in view when I get in the plane. That should help avoid the risk of it getting completely clogged before I detect it. > > > > Charlie > > > > On 11/12/2017 1:31 PM, Ron Springer ron228rj@gmail.com mailto:ron228rj@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > Charlie, > > > > > > I put safety wire on my glass filter joining the two end caps. It doesn't prevent them from turning but it prevents them from getting further apart, which would eventually stop them from turning. > > > > > > Ron > > > > > > On Nov 12, 2017 10:46 AM, "Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com mailto:ceengland7@gmail.com " wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Thanks Bill, but I wouldn't just have to come out of retirement; I'd need another whole career. :-) > > > > > > > > With an RV, the lowest points in the fuel system are the sumps on the tanks, so water separation would be redundant. And I just can't make myself pay $200-$400 for a fuel filter. > > > > > > > > My biggest misgivings about the little $10 glass body filters are the somewhat limited filter area (but still better than some of the 'racing' filters that have a little 3/8" disc), and the fact that they screw together with no easy way to safety them from unscrewing. The latter is more paranoia than a real issue; I've been running one for years on the Lyc with no issues. One thing I do like is the ability to actually see any trash accumulation. > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > Charlie > > > > > > > > > > > > On 11/12/2017 9:30 AM, Bill Schertz wschertz343@gmail.com mailto:wschertz343@gmail.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I used an Andair gascolator. > > > > > > > > > > From: mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net > > > > > Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:59 AM > > > > > To: Rotary motors in aircraft mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net > > > > > Subject: [FlyRotary] pre-filter for injection pump? > > > > > > > > > > What's being used for the ~100 micron pre-filter feeding your Walbros? I'm running one of those glass body cylindrical models on my Lyc powered RV, and it's been fine, but I'm open to better options as long as I don't have to come out of retirement to afford them. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > > > > > Charlie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon > > > > Virus-free. www.avast.com https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------=_Part_79246_381606586.1510975507931 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Do not forget, you can't pull a vacuum= on a liquid, the fluid will draw itself through (maybe not 60GPH =3D 3/8&#= 34; line but 20GPH =3D 3/8" line sure =3D $$ fuel bill ).  David R= . Cook  RV6A Rotary.

On November 17, = 2017 at 10:06 AM "Charlie England ceengland7@gmail.com" <flyrot= ary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Hey Ron, are you = running yours yet? I just did a quick & dirty gravity flow test on mine= , & I'm getting around 35 seconds to flow 16 ounces. If my math'= ;s right, that's only about 13 gal/hr, & the Walbros will be pullin= g 3 or 4 times that flow. Now I'm wondering how much pressure drop will= show up between the filter & the Walbro.

On Sun, Nov 12,= 2017 at 2:23 PM, Charlie England c= eengland7@gmail.com <flyrotary@lancaironline.net<= /a>> wrote:
Excellent idea. I think I can work with that, s= o I may just use the glass filter. At least there's a chance I can plac= e it so it's in view when I get in the plane. That should help avoid th= e risk of it getting completely clogged before I detect it.

Charli= e

On 11/12/2017 1:31 PM, Ron Springer ron228rj@gmail.com = wrote:
Charlie,

I put safety wire on my g= lass filter joining the two end caps. It doesn't prevent them from turn= ing but it prevents them from getting further apart, which would eventually= stop them from turning. 

Ron

On Nov 12, 2017 10:46 AM, "Charli= e England ceengland7@gmail.com" <f= lyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Thanks Bill, but I wouldn't just have to come out of retirement; I&#= 39;d need another whole career. :-)

With an RV, the lowest points= in the fuel system are the sumps on the tanks, so water separation would b= e redundant. And I just can't make myself pay $200-$400 for a fuel filt= er.

My biggest misgivings about the little $10 glass body filters= are the somewhat limited filter area (but still better than some of the &#= 39;racing' filters that have a little 3/8" disc), and the fact that= they screw together with no easy way to safety them from unscrewing. The l= atter is more paranoia than a real issue; I've been running one for yea= rs on the Lyc with no issues. One thing I do like is the ability to actuall= y see any trash accumulation.

Thanks,

Charlie


On 11/12/201= 7 9:30 AM, Bill Schertz wschertz343@gmail.com<= /a> wrote:
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:59 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] pre-filter for injection pump?
= 60;
What's being used for the ~100 micr= on pre-filter feeding your Walbros? I'm running one of those glass body= cylindrical models on my Lyc powered RV, and it's been fine, but I'= ;m open to better options as long as I don't have to come out of retire= ment to afford them.
 
Thanks,
 
Charlie


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