Mailing List flyrotary@lancaironline.net Message #63749
From: Ernest Christley echristley@att.net <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: spark plug SAG: would this help?
Date: Wed, 27 Sep 2017 16:58:23 +0000 (UTC)
To: Rotary motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Given the danger of a little silicon grease in the wrong place,  might a better solution be a blast tube of fresh air and cutting back any boot on the plug wire?


On Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:42 PM, "Subscriber Lehanover@aol.com" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:


So long as the thermal paste is kept off of the electrode area. The paste is electrically conductive as well.
None on the plug body. Once you have it inside a wire sleeve, you cannot clean it out. Throw that wire away and start over.
Reduce the torque on the plug by about 10% as the paste is a great lubricant.
 
Autolite Racing plugs are about $10.00 for 4 plugs. Heat range about the same as an NGK 10.  The gap is difficult to change as the ground electrode is cut back to expose the end of the center electrode.
Autolite number AR 2592.  Most parts stores can have these for you overnight.
 
The point of colder heat range plugs is that the car duty cycle is quite low, or less than 30%, while the aircraft may be close to 100%. You seldom jump into an RX-7 and drive for an hour at full throttle, but you can do that in a rotary powered airplane. Even race cars can have lower duty cycles than airplanes. 
Rotaries fire the plugs every revolution of the crank, like a 2 stoke. Overheated plugs cause lateral cracks to appear through the plug holes in the chrome.
 
I found a set of Champion N-57G. Gold Pladium fine wire center electrode. We ran these years ago. No longer available. Came out of the box gapped at .012" .
 
One advantage of the NGKs is the long body. Great if you run a killer ignition system. Less chance of a stray lightning bolt close to the plugs. CD and CD multi spark systems put out lethal voltages.
 
Lynn E. Hanover  
 
In a message dated 9/27/2017 11:42:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:
Charlie, this subject has been brought up before but if anyone is going to answer it you might have to wait 1-2 years for anything definitive on SAG.  I suppose a temperature probe around a spark plug before/after would determine if better heat transfer occurs. I personally use copper-coat on my spark plugs as an anti-seize compound.
Jeff


OK, I really can't remember if I've brought this up. I've thought about posting it, but I couldn't find any record of doing it. Forgive me if I'm repeating myself.

On the subject of spark plug SAG, and the great research Steve Boese did several years ago, it seemed that extreme temps in the plug itself was what is causing the quick degradation of the plugs. There was talk about running colder plugs, and IIRC, Lynn mentioned high-dollar racing plugs as a potential solution.

As I've begun my research into operating a Rotax 503 2stroke, I discovered that Rotax recommends using heat sink thermal-transfer paste on the spark plug threads of Rotax engines, to improve heat transfer out of the plugs. They even quote a temperature drop number for paste use.

If it works for a Rotax,  I've been wondering if it would help with the rotary, running the coldest off-the-shelf (affordable) plugs.

Any thoughts? Anyone care to try it? If you need a little to experiment with, I've got a couple of lifetimes supply from one of my previous lives, & could send you a bit.

Charlie

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