X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=OfraNVbY c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=dhB4MirljEi60dP1pwnlAA==:117 a=2JCJgTwv5E4A:10 a=sonwAcOmSVAWavtiYeoA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=mk0vb_0dKMDCf2xl9k0A:9 a=Lcx1NF6Yq_OE5HBN:21 From: "Andrew Martin" Received: from mail-qk0-f195.google.com ([209.85.220.195] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c3) with ESMTPS id 10073662 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Fri, 01 Sep 2017 12:15:06 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.220.195; envelope-from=andrew@martinag.com.au Received: by mail-qk0-f195.google.com with SMTP id l65so482231qkc.3 for ; Fri, 01 Sep 2017 09:15:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=martinag-com-au.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=ZlssjA9xo8H13OmhaNqbOnHsA8PkFMDB6N7V0X4Daz4=; b=Pc+SGaG6JZ8wLxFwEfEFhrxEGfO/K/zf+HcWEm2ExTsXjYW+l+CpOzDK3UelpZw9nB d8ZTpLabMowJEBp5lGE+Biidsz+/1B8ZVC+JAiTlqXJX1gwzMBzyYlJtzGvltHEbArv1 mCHJCBki63rySVSqMcsyl7agGGi3vFc6+NpUL9Hau0PfO81ViY9n9+Y17VLJQjChD8Yr YFVZ1sc5Kt3g8awVwmYIfRgDoHt97EYYM60apMKuAgvCmPEvV8quWWFQLPud9Mc6XLB8 y/PyPf3JwvJd53YyJwAtkhCCqYWg9OWQjNxZw9/LLDo7+2ELR1OzMUmz//vYRdiJn/k+ FtJQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=ZlssjA9xo8H13OmhaNqbOnHsA8PkFMDB6N7V0X4Daz4=; b=GEIlANQotuVd09G23HcazcwFcznKprXAR9VK8YsI5H4eqjWXh2Ov9lLuuEJlcXyiaG 5Ds7yO6r7pq9KH4h6LcPCD9sKVAyKSSDnPL6IXOPvCNBgSF7Ad2AQlzMzysxY7fvm1Le 9qxG/uPEKaP85uXYMkbyrL1TeD7U3zweA2SXeRgTNZrJeS8lfU0/vppZtWdyfWDtc93r sEYceFzEBKf+8sITBx+2RAoPbQdnEllcQAY57G9R9hvOWtg9ulKDu7xMx0kUdj+IC6eg GDFwJS559VZ+JHLBijNKCpG3pP8iOJpCWYGddv/+z0Y7sEtYCpcMp3aOolDqc6SymPqa uB2A== X-Gm-Message-State: AHPjjUhnDFBYCaTF0EPL/xsuPkaRl7wLsOyBFbj0tvSD8tNsy3U/VdkB oxqbB2hkXh/giSLo8COfnCclY9Nz/rNP X-Google-Smtp-Source: ADKCNb7rU6yG29ZuWNASQornM4jGpatUSU7JvRQ2NT93RQpatUrJcrqq+hoyf79zjOfJqmsG4dFxGRxSJzdL3vLGOI4= X-Received: by 10.55.135.199 with SMTP id j190mr3526493qkd.246.1504282489384; Fri, 01 Sep 2017 09:14:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Fri, 01 Sep 2017 16:14:38 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel system diagram To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="94eb2c05d3bc6c34610558230fe9" --94eb2c05d3bc6c34610558230fe9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Todd, I think your system should work just fine. If your flow test shows capacity greater than you need. No need to change anything if its functional and you understand how to manage it. I would not have thought to purge into a vent line, but dont see an issue with it. Whichever tank is selected should suck any vapour/fuel from the purge valve straight back in. I also previously had a small header tank in a semi returnless system. apparently, according to some mates it was too complicated with 1 valve per tank. To me venting the header tank was the biggest issue. Now I have semi returnless without header tank and just 1 valve that can select any 1 of 4 tanks or off, it feeds a facet pump then into a billet manifold under the seat that houses eveything else. 2 efi pumps, 2 efi filters, regulator, optical, pressure & flow sensors all mount direct and porting is done within the manifold. Only external pipes are from pump outlets to filter inlets and forward to the fuel rail. Manifold has solonoid purge back to right main, just in case I run a tank dry and need to purge the low pressure side. Its not perfect but I think it will work, main benefit for me was the reduction of a bucketload of fittings with the associated possiblity/probability of leaks due to my plumbing skill. If I was starting out from scratch, building a new plane. I would have 1 big tank per wing, each with a intank pwm controlled pump. Ultimate in simplicity with just enough redundancy. Andrew -- Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag --94eb2c05d3bc6c34610558230fe9 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Todd,=C2=A0
I think your system sh= ould work just fine. If your flow test shows capacity greater than you need= . No need to change anything if its functional and you understand how to ma= nage it.
I would not have thought to purge into a ve= nt line, but dont see an issue with it. Whichever tank is selected should s= uck any vapour/fuel from the purge valve straight back in.

I also previously had a small header tan= k in a semi returnless system. apparently, according to some mates it was t= oo complicated with 1 valve per tank. To me venting the header tank was the= biggest issue. Now I have semi returnless without header tank and just 1 v= alve that can select any 1 of 4 tanks or off, it feeds a facet pump then in= to a billet manifold under the seat that houses eveything else. 2 efi pumps= , 2 efi filters, regulator, optical, pressure & flow sensors all mount = direct and porting is done within the manifold. Only external pipes are fro= m pump outlets to filter inlets and forward to the fuel rail. Manifold has = solonoid purge back to right main, just in case I run a tank dry and need t= o purge the low pressure side.
Its not perfect but I= think it will work, main benefit for me was the reduction of a bucketload = of fittings with the associated possiblity/probability of leaks due to my p= lumbing skill.

If I was = starting out from scratch, building a new plane. I would have 1 big tank pe= r wing, each with a intank pwm controlled pump. Ultimate in simplicity with= just enough redundancy.=C2=A0
Andrew
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Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag
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