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[67.58.219.34]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 200sm930193itm.7.2017.08.23.05.23.29 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 23 Aug 2017 05:23:30 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_49771691.720374267398" MIME-Version: 1.0 Date: Wed, 23 Aug 2017 08:23:29 -0400 Message-ID: <8f9645eb-7501-4143-ae4a-43243ebaa482@getmailbird.com> Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Heat Soak & Fuel Purge valve- Another half baked idea? To: "Todd Bartrim" In-Reply-To: References: User-Agent: Mailbird/2.4.7.0 X-Mailbird-ID: 8f9645eb-7501-4143-ae4a-43243ebaa482@getmailbird.com ------=_NextPart_49771691.720374267398 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What was your reason to go return-less? I have 4 tanks in the wings split between the middle spar. Front left & rig= ht, Back left & right. Instead of having a selector valve for each tank (pl= us their return lines), I made 1 tank the main header tank. Fuel supplies a= nd returns to it. And the rest of the tanks feed the main tank using transf= er pump. No selector valve, full return system. -Matt Boiteau On Aug 22, 2017 17:36, "Todd Bartrim" wrote: By opening manually, I meant just opening the oil hatch on the top of the R= V cowl to let it cool. With that up in the air it would be difficult to mis= s and if I did miss it during a pre-flight, then I'd probably not be doing = a good job of my pre-flight inspection. But I do think it's a good idea and one that I may have given more serious = consideration to if I'd known about it earlier this year when I was doing f= iberglass work on the cowl. At this point though it looks pretty easy for me to add the fuel purge to t= he injector header, so unless somebody talks me back from the ledge, I'm pr= obably going to jump. Just as soon as I finish a solar mod on my boat so I = can take my kid fishing tomorrow. Todd Todd Bartrim On Tue, Aug 22, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Thomas Mann wrote: >Cheaper, lighter and probably safer to just open the door manually. __________________________________________________________________________ Cheaper: Depending on the alternative? Probably Lighter: Again, depending on the alternative???? Safer: Doubtful. These things are pretty much foolproof and have been used = in aircraft already for just this purpose. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 With a front hinged vent door I cannot= see a benefit to using a manual mechanical method of operation. =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 If you do use a mechanical actuator ..= ... don't forget to come back and close it. =C2=A0 All in all, it's sounds as those this would not be a good solution for you. =C2=A0 ------=_NextPart_49771691.720374267398 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
What was your reason to go return-le= ss?

I have 4 tanks in the wings split between the middle spar. Front= left & right, Back left & right. Instead of having a selector valv= e for each tank (plus their return lines), I made 1 tank the main header ta= nk. Fuel supplies and returns to it. And the rest of the tanks feed the mai= n tank using transfer pump. No selector valve, full return system.

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On Aug 22, 2017 17:36, "Tod= d Bartrim" <flyrotary@lan= caironline.net> wrote:
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By opening ma= nually, I meant just opening the oil hatch on the top of the RV cowl to let= it cool. With that up in the air it would be difficult to miss and if I di= d miss it during a pre-flight, then I'd probably not be doing a good job of= my pre-flight inspection.
But I do think it's a good idea and one that= I may have given more serious consideration to if I'd known about it earli= er this year when I was doing fiberglass work on the cowl.
At thi= s point though it looks pretty easy for me to add the fuel purge to the inj= ector header, so unless somebody talks me back from the ledge, I'm probably= going to jump. Just as soon as I finish a solar mod on my boat so I can ta= ke my kid fishing tomorrow.

Todd

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Cheaper: Depen= ding on the alternative? Probably
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