X-Junk-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 [] X-Cloudmark-Analysis: v=2.2 cv=aM2ykv1m c=1 sm=1 tr=0 a=CnEFp45ZNTRuzcQD7rPM3w==:117 a=x7bEGLp0ZPQA:10 a=WSWZBC3TcwIA:10 a=KeKAF7QvOSUA:10 a=MCwkHZ3UxqZi5IYZIiwA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=s8QIIma272AM27Yy:21 a=_W_S_7VecoQA:10 From: "Saro Marcarian" Received: from sonic315-20.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([66.163.190.146] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c3) with ESMTP id 10036387 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 14:19:23 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.163.190.146; envelope-from=sarodude@yahoo.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1503425929; bh=XgK/JdalBgdOvS+oXS6NZ7uiKCuaYMPlm7CGOKZTOr0=; h=Date:From:To:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:From:Subject; b=W5Yxoo7WSf6k3bl3wrN58ldRDlCW/fA/BLYrH/sjArkPTp3uSmikaGnu9i0rZmaLe202lrRAC8kqQr4sgdtSm2I6wVm3AVSoyXAotLycARwga/o82WQhalsN2MeIgbe/OCXa/vc93THS1/7F84eJECuNGyc076qTCVr8ck3wejDeiuUyL1yFyZOHvVLAEYD65AJHVCi4F4TeOMblAeeOcwcG/1sC9nW6b50HEq4tRd3RsKHoUkU81noeLyn1IyaIn49k9ujK0XpCdm+pMr9O5ZT0jIUDpLyGTJ4VYICKZcCMWhjChHNKONrTFXR0GYKe5PRDKc4t0ZrRhGLPZ09Cmw== X-YMail-OSG: wzUbx_oVM1kajAH8_4GHPSx594XU49F_EXeeLypu.4YwmcMhD1Yxmh9hOmg9GUw odcJjpARGg7c.pLwbQfXkRk8XnGksRukmaWs2slDVEGHPMnc5ST2aKN3ppCC0o2pU7F_HdVfAZzY sdmcyhqAgmrI98UNKiVpXcruJFrNI6KE695zWfQvziGVQHREsBFBNbLZ3oxWZRHDYnComD5tqbQa FEyfFXwZxHlSaKwGXHXJqGYFzMB0_YRxLFCMKIljbqf3SGNPxtKYFxWq.8MEo0azNxzZ8Eee2hfY DADJzds91h4WjMdJwNK2e8r7B_XjIYFkz1r2WWPTB1fxSUq3Gd65j1v_MuJhJ2E9ctKGhtf.Nk9m t8XLh.DUpa9odWOF_GrKBbeT4PD3f11u6dkrfEN939ZOo.t7AOW1cekanwOuiNJZV_xszx9M_exX Oxv3ZxLF83jsHryB5qLD6R.2Cfxahgc.n Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic315.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 22 Aug 2017 18:18:49 +0000 Date: Tue, 22 Aug 2017 18:18:44 +0000 (UTC) To: Rotary motors in aircraft Message-ID: <1860379779.2998731.1503425924315@mail.yahoo.com> In-Reply-To: References: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Heat Soak & Fuel Purge valve- Another half baked idea? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_2998730_1786656308.1503425924313" X-Mailer: WebService/1.1.10391 YMailNorrin Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/60.0.3112.101 Safari/537.36 Content-Length: 3484 ------=_Part_2998730_1786656308.1503425924313 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Todd Bartrim >>=C2=A0Instead of going back to a return type system I was th= inking about a push-button operated solenoid valve that would tee into the = fuel line before the regulator and return fuel to a main tank only while th= e button is pushed. It would have to be mounted before the regulator so tha= t it would be able to vent hot fuel when the pumps can't reach enough press= ure to open the regulator. And because it would only open when the button i= s held there would be no worries about accidentally pumping fuel overboard = through a vent from an already full tank. =C2=A0 So the thought is that I fly to some airport, taxi in to get that $1= 00 hamburger, back out an hour later, heat soak leaves me unable to get any= fuel pressure so I hold that button in for a minute while my facet pumps m= ove cool fuel into the system and hi-press pump starts doing it's hi-press = thing, let go of the button and start as usual. Todd- So this also comes from the Half Bakery. =C2=A0Instead of plumbing in anoth= er valve and hose, why not WIRE in something that just holds your injectors= open to purge the fuel vapors? =C2=A0I'm not sure what quantity of fuel va= por we'd be talking about, but it would seem an easy thing to try. Not knowing the amount (mass) of fuel that may have vaporized, this may or = may not be a good idea. =C2=A0So you might wind up with a prime - or with a= flood. =C2=A0Or a spectacular flame out your exhaust? -Saro=20 ------=_Part_2998730_1786656308.1503425924313 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Todd Bartrim >> Instead of= going back to a return type system I was thinking about a push-button oper= ated solenoid valve that would tee into the fuel line before the regulator = and return fuel to a main tank only while the button is pushed. It would ha= ve to be mounted before the regulator so that it would be able to vent hot = fuel when the pumps can't reach enough pressure to open the regulator. And = because it would only open when the button is held there would be no worrie= s about accidentally pumping fuel overboard through a vent from an already = full tank.
  So the thought is that I fly to some airport, taxi in = to get that $100 hamburger, back out an hour later, heat soak leaves me una= ble to get any fuel pressure so I hold that button in for a minute while my= facet pumps move cool fuel into the system and hi-press pump starts doing = it's hi-press thing, let go of the button and start as usual.

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Todd-

So this also comes from the Half B= akery.  Instead of plumbing in another valve and hose, why not WIRE in= something that just holds your injectors open to purge the fuel vapors? &n= bsp;I'm not sure what quantity of fuel vapor we'd be talking about, but it = would seem an easy thing to try.

Not knowing the a= mount (mass) of fuel that may have vaporized, this may or may not be a good= idea.  So you might wind up with a prime - or with a flood.  Or = a spectacular flame out your exhaust?

-Saro
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