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Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Engine Mount design
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2017 18:01:01 -0400
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Neil,

Are these offsets for Glasair or other aircraft?  I was told by Factory =
Rep that the Glasair had minimal offsets.  So I was not going to build =
them in. The other issue I see is that degrees are based on the exact =
same thrust point which I have never been able to get them to give me =
and I do not have a cowling to generate.

Mark


> On Jul 10, 2017, at 5:31 PM, Neil Unger <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> =
wrote:
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> Mark,  Do not forget the "offsets" with the engine.  The exact numbers =
can only be sourced from the factory, but from memory the engine has to =
face to the right 1.5 degrees and down 1.78 degrees.  Check these =
figures with the factory.  regards,  Neil.
>=20
> On 7/11/2017 6:35 AM, Mark McClure wrote:
>> Well I think I have designed my mount for the Glasair.  Overall I =
think it will be a bit overkill but I am ok with that.
>>=20
>> Should put the CG close to the same spot as for the Lyco.  Thrust =
point in the same spot.  Green bars were part of the Glasair mount for a =
Lycoming. (There was also one between the two upper points but I don=E2=80=
=99t think any of them are truly necessary with the stabilization of the =
plate.  Yellow bar I am calling optional at this point to make it easier =
to work with intake/exhaust.  Another idea we had was to weld on a =
flange for both sides of the yellow bar and have it bolt on during final =
install.
>>=20
>> Thoughts?
>>=20
>> Mark
>>=20
>>=20
>>=20
>> <Screen Shot 2017-07-10 at 4.32.56 PM.png>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" =
class=3D"">Neil,<div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Are =
these offsets for Glasair or other aircraft? &nbsp;I was told by Factory =
Rep that the Glasair had minimal offsets. &nbsp;So I was not going to =
build them in. The other issue I see is that degrees are based on the =
exact same thrust point which I have never been able to get them to give =
me and I do not have a cowling to generate.</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Mark</div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div><blockquote =
type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div class=3D"">On Jul 10, 2017, at 5:31 PM, =
Neil Unger &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net" =
class=3D"">flyrotary@lancaironline.net</a>&gt; wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D"">
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    <meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D"">
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  <div text=3D"#000000" bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" class=3D""><p =
class=3D"">Mark,&nbsp; Do not forget the "offsets" with the =
engine.&nbsp; The exact
      numbers can only be sourced from the factory, but from memory the
      engine has to face to the right 1.5 degrees and down 1.78
      degrees.&nbsp; Check these figures with the factory.&nbsp; =
regards,&nbsp; Neil.<br class=3D"">
    </p>
    <br class=3D"">
    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 7/11/2017 6:35 AM, Mark McClure
      wrote:<br class=3D"">
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:list-9904155@logan.com" =
class=3D"">
      <meta http-equiv=3D"Context-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8" class=3D"">
      Well I think I have designed my mount for the Glasair. =
&nbsp;Overall I
      think it will be a bit overkill but I am ok with that.
      <div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
      </div>
      <div class=3D"">Should put the CG close to the same spot as for =
the
        Lyco. &nbsp;Thrust point in the same spot. &nbsp;Green bars were =
part of
        the Glasair mount for a Lycoming. (There was also one between
        the two upper points but I don=E2=80=99t think any of them are =
truly
        necessary with the stabilization of the plate. &nbsp;Yellow bar =
I am
        calling optional at this point to make it easier to work with
        intake/exhaust. &nbsp;Another idea we had was to weld on a =
flange for
        both sides of the yellow bar and have it bolt on during final
        install.</div>
      <div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
      </div>
      <div class=3D"">Thoughts?</div>
      <div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
      </div>
      <div class=3D"">Mark</div>
      <div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
      </div>
      <div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
        <div class=3D""><br class=3D"">
        </div>
        <div class=3D""><span =
id=3D"cid:part1.6E3977EA.EF49AC40@gmail.com">&lt;Screen Shot 2017-07-10 =
at 4.32.56 PM.png&gt;</span></div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <br class=3D"">
  </div>

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