X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Todd Bartrim" Received: from mail-qt0-f172.google.com ([209.85.216.172] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c3) with ESMTPS id 9838049 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 03:00:58 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.216.172; envelope-from=bartrim@gmail.com Received: by mail-qt0-f172.google.com with SMTP id w1so126344361qtg.2 for ; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 00:00:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=hy+v8x52W4p3/KQrZIqcZGOY8vEJbS0rIWTzCn8Xwag=; b=uOM3MNXiZ50wdDxYLeNznSEQlK955KPVHY3Q8NSa6yRjQTe6JL2BDBrhiWNiRm8O0I r7GYCWC7JziGg78kSm9Fc8NXODICwFVEobnkrEC1rk58yzk0ISThjFX28V3tXxz7X1Z1 Po3nimXiCgBCCjbDdcs9uPPhYvNyqc9eE7ur26+mfS71LEeooG/qiq3bi/LgwLqx1wkS mYnaAuJbkEyGSHdLDxmY41FCHKWsNAqjzSREMI6mRWYOs+LlD47G6n6HDkDxYGTdjDGP CpIZLnxmueoCkSVxRiMKulZkltRNLVbZYuvrR/ZP8EsCCxzjO2/tFKIRYswoJ1Nr4GCX onuQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=hy+v8x52W4p3/KQrZIqcZGOY8vEJbS0rIWTzCn8Xwag=; b=IVq2UWTD9w+zqmSR7cIxenXIKGMr1nQ5a9iuUdleE2/Pf6Ud1XbwJTgQSdLAQwmDxi ueu8pMESEDJWo+OHxde+L6WO+6MxbgW3JCTnIgs7prA+p+KrTqdXHYgyKQT+wUAIHyuR QlB4RJlI1l2UQUwUYIJKKZgtkUTZFsJ76HiK24/RwwIB5thEKNwrl2A80ei8zNAqP9W1 cJo0RL9mBO2wp5Dq5vapuOL1B9s2A576aZjjke39tWLtWvGy3ct4eqplwy9VhVkxtymC 5LDA7C6DJ1H/LTVWolkzWmOV+f7ItK7nPMH++C35dFsUAvssqDdEjDZrzREGadOE6cO+ SK0A== X-Gm-Message-State: AKS2vOxA/2IGXdBG1YLGMph/1Q91CbkaGnqUp2So0aOljxCIcZxYLsFu h09TP8IMX5LZoDuzJzaOFwoW6TN83A== X-Received: by 10.237.53.205 with SMTP id d13mr30813616qte.46.1497942039839; Tue, 20 Jun 2017 00:00:39 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 20 Jun 2017 07:00:29 +0000 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Forever Projects To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a11c10d142dc5ed05525ecf4c" --001a11c10d142dc5ed05525ecf4c Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dave; I thought that you were using an IVO. I've got the 30"-90"=C3=9776"Magnum= and I never saw numbers like that. I knew I should have cut it down but I also knew that one day I would order new blades for it which I did about 5 weeks ago. So I'll be looking to sell the blades only and I figure they may be hard to sell without the hub but as they are still full length they have a better chance of being bought by someone looking for replacement blades. I'm looking forward to flying behind the deep pitch version. What reduction ratio are you running? Todd On Mon, Jun 19, 2017, 21:05 hoursaway1, wrote= : > Ivoprop 45 deg. to 105 deg. pitch, 68" three blade, in-flight adjust. > David > > ------------------------------ > *From: *"Todd Bartrim" > *To: *"Rotary motors in aircraft" > *Sent: *Monday, June 19, 2017 1:34:39 AM > > *Subject: *[FlyRotary] Re: Forever Projects > > Hey David; > What prop are using there? > > Todd > Dreaming with my eyes wide open.... > > Todd Bartrim > > On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 at 7:32 PM, hoursaway1 > wrote: > >> Good write Todd, you know Lynn,,,,,,we race planes to & Rotarys are >> FAST.. David RV6A Rotary 3000 ft 80F at altitude above airport pattern >> making oval patterns wide open throttle prop still pitched for takeoff n= o >> gear fairings yet,,,,,,176 kts ind. >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From: *"Todd Bartrim" >> *To: *"Rotary motors in aircraft" >> *Sent: *Saturday, June 17, 2017 1:56:41 PM >> *Subject: *[FlyRotary] Re: Forever Projects >> >> Do something everyday. That advice was given to me long ago when I >> originally began my project. One little job (or big job) everyday and >> eventually there will be nothing left to do but take It to the airport. >> Now this might sound oversimplified just like the whole "journey of a >> thousand miles" thing, >> But what I believe is the key to this is that if you do something >> everyday then the details of the project are always kept in the forefron= t >> of your mind and when you have a hour or two to work on it you don't was= te >> time trying to think about where you left off or what you are going to d= o >> next. >> For almost 12 years after I last flew my plane I was overwhelmed with >> other projects and responsibilities that I allowed to fill my brain to t= he >> point where when I would have a moment when I could consider working on = the >> plane, I would find myself feeling overwhelmed and not knowing where to >> even start. So I didn't. Until finally I did. In the intervening years I >> did keep a task list on my phone and continued to lurk on the list so wh= en >> various new ideas were brought up I would add them to the list for futur= e >> consideration. The list grew to a very daunting size, to a point where i= t >> was discouraging to realize that I had been flying this machine and some= how >> there had grown this almost insurmountable list of tasks to accomplish >> before returning to the skies. When I finally got back into it, I starte= d >> by just saying no to all the other jobs and favours that were consuming = my >> time and space in the shop and then I spent an entire weekend not doing >> much more to the plane than familiarize myself with it and develop a men= tal >> state where I could recall the details of the many interrelated items th= at >> make this thing defy gravity. This is necessary but wasted time that cou= ld >> be avoided simply by doing something everyday then the details stay easi= ly >> accessible in the forefront of my mind instead of buried in the dusty >> recesses of my mind. And now that very long list has only a small number= of >> items without a checkmark beside them. >> When I started this project I was a relatively young man compared to >> all the old timers that seemed to dominate the airshows and getting an >> aviation medical was a simple formality. Now how the years have slipped = by >> and I find myself facing next week's medical with apprehension. Although= a >> little sore in the mornings from many previous injuries Im still very >> active and feel great, but I also realize that now that I've crossed tha= t >> half century mark, there are a long list of hidden ailments that could b= e >> lurking unknown that would preclude the passing of a medical. And that >> would be truly heartbreaking to have wasted all these years not flying t= his >> plane. >> Then all I could do is ramble on, offering unsolicited advice on >> forums... ;) >> Lyn, over the the years you have given us much great advice based on >> your years of racing experience. Now let me give you some. Go out to you= r >> shop and lower that plane to the ground and do something on it. Today. A= nd >> everyday. >> >> All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty >> recesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but >> the dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dre= ams >> with open eyes, to make them possible. >> T. E. Lawrence >> >> Todd >> C-FSTB >> RV9 13Bturbo >> On Sat, Jun 17, 2017, 09:21 Kelly Troyer, >> wrote: >> >>> Lehanover >>> Jun 16 (1 day ago) >>> to Rotary >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> The micron rating of the last chance filter would be the same as in the >>> car the injector came from or was used in. Find a filter with that micr= on >>> rating (the one from the car) and cut it open. Lay out the paper or wir= e >>> media and measure the square inches. Double that number and buy a filte= r(s) >>> that have that numberof square inches of media and AN fitting capabilit= y. >>> >>> There is no application for hose barb fittings on an airplane or a rac= e >>> car. Change the filters at annual. >>> Sintered bronze elements can be plugged solid by a dose of water. I >>> would not use them. This is race car stuff. My BD-4 hangs from the cei= ling >>> unfinished. >>> Lynn E. Hanover >>> >>> Lynn, >>> >>> Do not think you are alone out there in "Project Unfinished >>> Land"...........I am still plugging away with my Dyke Delta JD2 with th= e >>> hope of flying before death............At age 76 I still look forward t= o >>> working on it...........Would rather die building than in the >>> recliner..............<:) >>> >>> Best Regards, >>> Kelly Troyer >>> >> >> > --001a11c10d142dc5ed05525ecf4c Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Hi Dave;
=C2=A0 I thought that you were using an IVO. I've got the 30"-90&q= uot;=C3=9776"Magnum=C2=A0 and I never saw numbers like that. I knew I = should have cut it down but I also knew that one day I would order new blad= es for it which I did about 5 weeks ago. So I'll be looking to sell the= blades only and I figure they may be hard to sell without the hub but as t= hey are still full length they have a better chance of being bought by some= one looking for replacement blades.
=C2=A0 I'm looking forward to flying behind the deep pitch version.
=C2=A0 What reduction ratio are you running?

Todd


On Mon, Jun 19, 2017, 21:05= hoursaway1, <flyrotary@l= ancaironline.net> wrote:
Ivopro= p 45 deg. to 105 deg. pitch, 68" three blade, in-flight adjust.=C2=A0 = David

=
From: "T= odd Bartrim" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
To: "Rotary = motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Monday= , June 19, 2017 1:34:39 AM

Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Forever Project= s

Hey David;
=C2=A0 What prop are us= ing there?

Todd
Dreaming with my eyes wi= de open....

Todd Ba= rtrim

On Sun, Jun 18, 2017 = at 7:32 PM, hoursaway1 <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Good write Todd, you know Lynn,,,,= ,,we race planes to & Rotarys are FAST.. David=C2=A0 RV6A Rotary 3000 f= t 80F at altitude above airport pattern making oval patterns wide open thro= ttle prop still pitched for takeoff no gear fairings yet,,,,,,176 kts ind.<= br>

From: "Todd Bartrim" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
= To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" <flyrotary@lancaironline.net&= gt;
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 1:56:41 PMSubject: [FlyRotary] Re: Forever Projects

Do something everyday. That advice was given to me l= ong ago when I originally began my project. One little job (or big job) eve= ryday and eventually there will be nothing left to do but take It to the ai= rport.
=C2=A0 Now this might sound oversimplified just like the whole = "journey of a thousand miles" thing,
But what I believe is th= e key to this is that if you do something everyday then the details of the = project are always kept in the forefront of your mind and when you have a h= our or two to work on it you don't waste time trying to think about whe= re you left off or what you are going to do next.
=C2=A0 For almost 12 = years after I last flew my plane I was overwhelmed with other projects and = responsibilities that I allowed to fill my brain to the point where when I = would have a moment when I could consider working on the plane, I would fin= d myself feeling overwhelmed and not knowing where to even start. So I didn= 't. Until finally I did. In the intervening years I did keep a task lis= t on my phone and continued to lurk on the list so when various new ideas w= ere brought up I would add them to the list for future consideration. The l= ist grew to a very daunting size, to a point where it was discouraging to r= ealize that I had been flying this machine and somehow there had grown this= almost insurmountable list of tasks to accomplish before returning to the = skies. When I finally got back into it, I started by just saying no to all = the other jobs and favours that were consuming my time and space in the sho= p and then I spent an entire weekend not doing much more to the plane than = familiarize myself with it and develop a mental state where I could recall = the details of the many interrelated items that make this thing defy gravit= y. This is necessary but wasted time that could be avoided simply by doing = something everyday then the details stay easily accessible in the forefront= of my mind instead of buried in the dusty recesses of my mind. And now tha= t very long list has only a small number of items without a checkmark besid= e them.
=C2=A0 When I started this project I was a relatively young man= compared to all the old timers that seemed to dominate the airshows and ge= tting an aviation medical was a simple formality. Now how the years have sl= ipped by and I find myself facing next week's medical with apprehension= . Although a little sore in the mornings from many previous injuries Im sti= ll very active and feel great, but I also realize that now that I've cr= ossed that half century mark, there are a long list of hidden ailments that= could be lurking unknown that would preclude the passing of a medical. And= that would be truly heartbreaking to have wasted all these years not flyin= g this plane.
=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 Then all I could do is ramble on= , offering unsolicited advice on forums... ;)
=C2=A0 Lyn, over the the = years you have given us much great advice based on your years of racing exp= erience. Now let me give you some. Go out to your shop and lower that plane= to the ground and do something on it. Today. And everyday.

All men dream, but not equally. Those who dream by night in the dusty re= cesses of their minds, wake in the day to find that it was vanity: but the = dreamers of the day are dangerous men, for they may act on their dreams wit= h open eyes, to make them possible.
T. E. Lawrence

T= odd
C-FSTB
RV9 13Bturbo

On Sat, Jun 17, 2017, 09:21 Kelly Troyer, <flyrotary@lancaironline.net&g= t; wrote:

Lehanover

Jun 16 (1 day ago)
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The mi= cron rating of the last chance filter would be the same as in the car the i= njector came from or was used in. Find a filter with that micron rating (th= e one from the car) and cut it open. Lay out the paper or wire media and me= asure the square inches. Double that number and buy a filter(s) that have t= hat numberof square inches of media=C2=A0and AN fitting capability.
=C2=A0
=C2=A0There is no application for hose barb fittings on= an airplane or a race car. Change the filters at annual.
Sintere= d bronze elements can be plugged solid by a dose of water. I would not use = them.=C2=A0 This is race car stuff. My BD-4 hangs from the ceiling unfinish= ed.
Lynn E. Hanover

Lynn,
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 Do not think you are alone out there in "Pro= ject Unfinished Land"...........I am still plugging away with my Dyke = Delta JD2 with the hope of flying before death............At age 76 I still= look forward to working on it...........Would rather die building than in = the recliner..............<:)

Best Regard= s,
Kelly Troyer


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