X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Tom Gillespie" Received: from nm22-vm3.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.91.152] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c3) with ESMTPS id 9834780 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 18 Jun 2017 13:22:21 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=98.138.91.152; envelope-from=pseudowilly33@ymail.com DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=ymail.com; s=s2048; t=1497806526; bh=X5X+PgTkMmI8+0sjO9h7mA7gYXo8ufebQpFKbN4QqK8=; h=Subject:References:From:In-Reply-To:Date:To:From:Subject; b=Rsa07ZFipy4kX8GGJBBF9LI/7BUrn91KTOmn8iQxjuKzZHi+WWmABAgqXdMgsTFo7ozm85gwuoqEKuiWN51p33n1nR8ext0bcYGTFXTaSjty/xgp/khdfryMg1CxlRR+nYN2vF4uDRuBivgT/whS9fpSGjfmLkkTb6zRDshOyOtK6p8JqawigGlz/r1nlU4nrAUv1L6PoAF4exhG1RShR0Nkku34nkC74IzcF89JvVdw2Z1coDS9XaPXHq48dPsjQ4aH6Is6jP9KYCAYNnryjZXTBfgO/BnrryNf0EgdATGodK8pvpAw3it9PNu1AfXnMdovh52mcfW4tt8KJnvA8Q== Received: from [98.138.100.113] by nm22.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jun 2017 17:22:06 -0000 Received: from [98.138.84.41] by tm104.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jun 2017 17:22:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 18 Jun 2017 17:22:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 123613.85860.bm@smtp109.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: haFb9CMVM1kpC2l1Dkga.HIj8i_VW_xcJMOYi5PzbZiftd7 vADBkWs2DQxFU6b6Lxl2w3_yDuOIkC.HAh1UEYg_6mLLMG_F5esqPzuwyarZ nFveW52YEhvWvCefq9i.lLQAeUCskORxQr2OFf8zmPoQHeIvhwjEGoVg34q0 cLXkJFtmKjcfcHbg8MhP5uoEzc2uXAC2L4EpuGJMk0m_8nGBUbC1uchDaiTm d9BgceynBLkpJmFJW6beN6zd1EtjUsAGgftshZurgF1.fcKPf.7aWguS5LHx Qv96PRoL.TkXuk29YOfKDAEgetheTMhHEiSEnBNrlv4PbWC3F6F0mZLV8uBa mgK.vXluhKVfeYjplzBpJp4lD2.3kIIsoRk3G0vJpaZ54bHwUizqvKPj2s6X R6NZE8oWK9Q_WgPAbzJAU1ti6v3_RBhrALlzwugkhN3bDZZ9n80.39K4f1YZ BliR25LBWvq79uRIhMRu8Ukt6ROJ.D4JcCaeKJcZU31APAdF6rju80t8KYRx 7CVjnbP5cImc225btvAZ8PfwobKwTeKu.AhsUYEm9H8FZAFZhulaNfavkux2 D2dIuQE6MCkkc X-Yahoo-SMTP: r3Tl7fOswBCWET4zQp0OXOIdtYNw.bspH57OdKtCGLEfZxQ8 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] 20 B for sale References: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 18 Jun 2017 13:15:15 -0400 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (iPhone Mail 8C148a) X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (8C148a) Roy, What other forums are u on? I'm on several as well as Facebook. I think th= ose are our options to exchange private info.=20 I'm working today so I'll check back on here later this evening.=20 Thanks! Tom Sent from my iPhone On Jun 18, 2017, at 9:16 AM, "Roy Glenn" wrote= : > Tom=20 > I am interested .,How do i contact you??? >=20 > Roy > rglenn14@sbcglobal.net > -------------------------------------------- > On Sun, 6/18/17, Mail Delivery Subsystem wrote: >=20 > Subject: Undeliverable mail: Re: flyrotary Digest #4450 > To: rglenn14@sbcglobal.net > Date: Sunday, June 18, 2017, 7:47 AM >=20 > Failed to deliver to 'flyrotary@lancaironline.net' > LIST module(list flyrotary@lancaironline.net) > reports: > You should not reply on digest > messages without changing the Subject field >=20 > in contact with Tom Gillespie about the engine he has > for sale > -------------------------------------------- > On Sat, 6/17/17, Rotary motors in aircraft > wrote: >=20 > Subject: flyrotary Digest #4450 > To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" > Date: Saturday, June 17, 2017, 5:01 AM >=20 > From: "Ed Anderson" > Message-ID: > Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel > filter > Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 08:55:25 -0400 > Content-Type: text/plain; > format=3Dflowed; > charset=3D"utf-8"; > reply-type=3Dresponse > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >=20 > Hi Finn, >=20 > Since you appear to be uncomfortable > with barb fittings, here are the ones I=20 > used for over 10 years that have a > screwed on fitting, never had any=20 > problems. Replaced them ever 2 > years, cut them open and could never detect=20 > any trash in fuel system. I > started with an AC GF-481 which became hard to=20 > find and then switched to a more > readily accessable NAPA filter the GF652=20 > NAPA FIL-3481. They do require > the Saginaw fitting and an "O" ring. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Fuel Filters: =20 > OEM Auto Fuel Injector Fuel Filters (Two in > Parallel) > Type: =20 > AC GF - 481 Pkg: 25056052 OEM:25055129 (or > equivalent) > =20 > Replaced by GF652, > NAPA FIL -3481 > Fittings: =20 > 3/8 Saginaw to AN6 Adapter, =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D ring required >=20 > Best Regards >=20 > Ed >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message-----=20 > From: Charlie England > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:29 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter >=20 > On 6/15/2017 7:45 PM, Finn Lassen > wrote: >> Still haven't found a EFI filter > with hose barbs I'm comfortable with. >>=20 >> Some specs says paper filter, some > puts the limit at 45 psi. >>=20 >> Can anybody recommend a filter to > insert between output of HFI pumps and=20 >> fuel rails? >>=20 >> Finn >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub:=20 >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > Have you searched for an inline fuel > injection filter with NPT threads? > You can use NPT to hose barb adapters. > Summit has one that looks like > the NAPA all metal filter several > builders have used. It doesn't list > filter media or max psi on the site, > but it might be worth a look. >=20 > Charlie >=20 > --- > This email has been checked for viruses > by Avast antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub:=20 > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >=20 >=20 > Rotary motors in aircraft > Digest #4450 >=20 > 1) Re: Fuel filter > by Ed Anderson > 2) Re: Fuel filter > by Finn Lassen > 3) Re: Fuel filter > by flyrotary > 4) Re: ceramic coating > by Ernest Christley > 5) Re: ceramic coating > by William Jepson > 6) Re: Jet-Hot Ceramic Coating > by Doug Lomheim > 7) Re: Jet-Hot Ceramic Coating > by A R Goldman > 8) Re: ceramic coating > by Todd Bartrim > 9) Re: Jet-Hot Ceramic Coating > by Todd Bartrim >=20 > This digest is sent to you because you are subscribed to > the mailing list . > To unsubscribe, E-mail to: > To switch to the FEED mode, E-mail to > Send administrative queries to >=20 > From: "Finn Lassen" > Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter > Message-ID: <678fac63-b136-95f1-b3fd-7640f095d843@verizon.net> > Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 10:26:17 -0400 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3Dutf-8; format=3Dflowed > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit >=20 > Hi Ed, >=20 > I'm not uncomfortable with hose barbs as such. All fuel > lines forward of=20 > firewall are Aeoquip "hose barbs". > Considering inside area of 3/8" hose (0.11 sq in) and 80 > psi > (more than=20 > twice my normal operating pressure) and how hard it is to > press on the=20 > hose onto the fittings, a 9 pound pressure trying to press > off the hose=20 > seems minor. >=20 > I'm more concerned with the quality of the filter (can) > itself. With all=20 > the high pressure car EFIs out there it should be possible > to find a=20 > filter with hose barbs -- but maybe not the quality of the > Aeroquip ones. >=20 > Finn >=20 > On 6/16/2017 8:55 AM, Ed Anderson wrote: >> Hi Finn, >>=20 >> Since you appear to be uncomfortable with barb > fittings, here are the=20 >> ones I used for over 10 years that have a screwed on > fitting, never=20 >> had any problems. Replaced them ever 2 years, cut > them open and could=20 >> never detect any trash in fuel system. I started > with an AC GF-481=20 >> which became hard to find and then switched to a more > readily=20 >> accessable NAPA filter the GF652 NAPA FIL-3481.=20 > They do require the=20 >> Saginaw fitting and an "O" ring. >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> Fuel Filters: OEM > Auto Fuel Injector Fuel Filters (Two in=20 >> Parallel) >> Type: AC GF - > 481 Pkg: 25056052 OEM:25055129 (or equivalent) >> =20 > Replaced by GF652, NAPA FIL -3481 >> Fittings: 3/8 Saginaw to > AN6 Adapter, =E2=80=9CO=E2=80=9D ring required >>=20 >> Best Regards >>=20 >> Ed >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> -----Original Message----- From: Charlie England >> Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:29 PM >> To: Rotary motors in aircraft >> Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter >>=20 >> On 6/15/2017 7:45 PM, Finn Lassen wrote: >>> Still haven't found a EFI filter with hose barbs > I'm comfortable with. >>>=20 >>> Some specs says paper filter, some puts the limit > at 45 psi. >>>=20 >>> Can anybody recommend a filter to insert between > output of HFI pumps=20 >>> and fuel rails? >>>=20 >>> Finn >>>=20 >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> --=20 >>> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >>> Archive and UnSub:=20 >>> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >> Have you searched for an inline fuel injection filter > with NPT threads? >> You can use NPT to hose barb adapters. Summit has one > that looks like >> the NAPA all metal filter several builders have used. > It doesn't list >> filter media or max psi on the site, but it might be > worth a look. >>=20 >> Charlie >>=20 >> --- >> This email has been checked for viruses by Avast > antivirus software. >> https://www.avast.com/antivirus >>=20 >>=20 >> --=20 >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub:=20 >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>=20 >> --=20 >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub:=20 >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >>=20 >>=20 >=20 > From: "flyrotary" > Message-ID: <1945d9.7d7e88f.46754b29@aol.com> > Date: Fri, 16 Jun 2017 10:54:33 -0400 > Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter > Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary=3D"part1_1945d9.7d7e88f.46754b29_boundary" >=20 > --part1_1945d9.7d7e88f.46754b29_boundary > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=3D"UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Language: en >=20 > The micron rating of the last chance filter would be the > same as in the ca=3D > r=3D20 > the injector came from or was used in. Find a filter > with > that micron=3D20 > rating (the one from the car) and cut it open. Lay out > the paper or wire=3D > media=3D20 > and measure the square inches. Double that number and > buy a filter(s) tha=3D > t=3D20 > have that numberof square inches of media and AN > fitting capability. > =3D20 > There is no application for hose barb fittings on an > airplane or a race=3D > =3D20 > car. Change the filters at annual. > Sintered bronze elements can be plugged solid by a dose of > water. I would=3D > =3D20 > not use them. This is race car stuff. My BD-4 hangs > from the ceiling =3D20 > unfinished.=3D20 > Lynn E. Hanover > =3D20 > In a message dated 6/16/2017 8:55:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight > Time, =3D20 > flyrotary@lancaironline.net > writes: > =3D20 > Hi Finn, >=20 > Since you appear to be uncomfortable with barb fittings, > here are the one=3D > s=3D20 > I=3D20 > used for over 10 years that have a screwed on fitting, > never had any=3D20 > problems. Replaced them ever 2 years, cut them open > and could never=3D20 > detect=3D20 > any trash in fuel system. I started with an AC=20 > GF-481 which became hard=3D > =3D20 > to=3D20 > find and then switched to a more readily accessible > NAPA filter the GF652=3D > =3D20 > NAPA FIL-3481. They do require the Saginaw > fitting and an "O" ring. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Fuel Filters: OEM Auto Fuel Injector Fuel > Filters (Two in Parallel) > Type: AC GF - > 481 Pkg: 25056052 OEM:25055129 (or equivalent) > Replaced by GF652, NAPA FIL -3481 > Fittings: 3/8 Saginaw to > AN6 Adapter, =3DE2=3D80=3D9CO=3DE2=3D80=3D9D ring re=3D > quired >=20 > Best Regards >=20 > Ed >=20 >=20 >=20 > -----Original Message-----=3D20 > From: Charlie England > Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:29 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel filter >=20 > On 6/15/2017 7:45 PM, Finn Lassen wrote: >> Still haven't found a EFI filter with hose barbs=20 > I'm comfortable with. >>=20 >> Some specs says paper filter, some puts the limit > at 45 psi. >>=20 >> Can anybody recommend a filter to insert between > output of HFI pumps an=3D > d=3D20 >> fuel rails? >>=20 >> Finn >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> --=3D20 >> Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ >> Archive and UnSub:=3D20 >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > Have you searched for an inline fuel injection filter > with NPT threads? > You can use NPT to hose barb adapters. Summit has one > that looks like > the NAPA all metal filter several builders have used. > It doesn't list > filter media or max psi on the site, but it might be > worth a look. >=20 > Charlie >=20 > --- > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast > antivirus software. > https://www.avast.com/antivirus >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: =3D20 > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html > =3D20 >=20 >=20 > -- > Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ > Archive and UnSub: =3D20 > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html >=20 >=20 > --part1_1945d9.7d7e88f.46754b29_boundary > Content-Type: text/html; charset=3D"UTF-8" > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable > Content-Language: en >=20 > Transitional//EN"> > > http-equiv=3D3DContent-Type> > 11.00.9600.18698"> > FONT-FAMILY: Arial; COLOR:=3D > #000000"=3D20 > bottomMargin=3D3D7 leftMargin=3D3D7 rightMargin=3D3D7 > topMargin=3D3D7> ole_document=3D20 > color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2 face=3D3DArial> >
The micron rating of the last chance filter > would > be the same as in=3D > the car=3D20 > the injector came from or was used in. Find a filter with > that micron rati=3D > ng=3D20 > (the one from the car) and cut it open. Lay out the paper > or > wire media an=3D > d=3D20 > measure the square inches. Double that number and buy a > filter(s) that hav=3D > e that=3D20 > numberof square inches of media and AN fitting > capability.
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 There is no application for hose barb > fittings on an airplane=3D > or a=3D20 > race car. Change the filters at annual.
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Sintered bronze elements can be plugged solid > by > a dose of water. I=3D > would=3D20 > not use them.  This is race car stuff. My BD-4 > hangs from the ceiling=3D > =3D20 > unfinished.
>
Lynn E. Hanover
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In a message dated 6/16/2017 8:55:46 A.M. > Eastern > Daylight Time,=3D20 > flyrotary@lancaironline.net > writes:
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> style=3D3D"PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: > blue 2px solid"=3D >> style=3D3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" > color=3D3D#000000 size=3D3D2 face=3D3D=3D > Arial>Hi=3D20 > Finn,

Since you appear to be > uncomfortable with barb fittings, he=3D > re are=3D20 > the ones I
used for over 10 years that have > a screwed on fitting, ne=3D > ver=3D20 > had any
problems.  Replaced them > ever 2 years, cut them open an=3D > d=3D20 > could never detect
any trash in fuel > system.  I started with an=3D > AC=3D20 > GF-481 which became hard to
find and then > switched to a more readily=3D > =3D20 > accessible NAPA filter the GF652
NAPA > FIL-3481.  They do requir=3D > e the=3D20 > Saginaw fitting and an "O" > ring.



Fuel > Filters:  &nbs=3D > p;=3D20 >       OEM Auto Fuel > Injector Fuel Filters (Two in=3D20 > Parallel)
Type:    >          AC > GF=3D > - 481=3D20 > Pkg: 25056052 OEM:25055129 (or > equivalent)
      >  =3D > ;=3D20 >         >       Replaced by GF652, NAPA=3D > FIL=3D20 > -3481
Fittings:    >      3/8 Saginaw to AN6=3D > =3D20 > Adapter, =3DE2=3D80=3D9CO=3DE2=3D80=3D9D ring > required

Best=3D20 > =20 > Regards

Ed



-----Original > Message-----
From: Ch=3D > arlie=3D20 > England
Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 11:29 > PM
To: Rotary motors=3D > in=3D20 > aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Fuel > filter

On 6/15/2017 7:4=3D > 5 PM,=3D20 > Finn Lassen wrote:
> Still haven't > found a EFI filter with hose ba=3D > rbs=3D20 > I'm comfortable > with.
>
> Some specs says > paper filter, some=3D > puts=3D20 > the limit at 45 > psi.
>
> Can anybody > recommend a filter to=3D > insert=3D20 > between output of HFI pumps and
> > fuel rails?
>
>=3D20 > =20 > Finn
>
>
>
> > --
> Homepage: =3D20 > http://www.flyrotary