X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Tracy Crook" Received: from mail-yw0-f182.google.com ([209.85.161.182] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c1) with ESMTPS id 9703398 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 11:44:20 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.182; envelope-from=rwstracy@gmail.com Received: by mail-yw0-f182.google.com with SMTP id 203so2378077ywe.0 for ; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 08:44:22 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=message-id:mime-version:to:from:subject:date:importance:in-reply-to :references; bh=cttFmcv9NpEc1ukHkURGrMwyb7byamBz7mjguCffhwI=; b=FVP8mVJjshkMcPT/H311z7eC3v+ctDzheAeGjuN3PKdXeVM8ggrH7zzbnn+lI105mx 4S8UwVLNtRdFEExpJf72faqz+2SEFSZmHFVmY1IHVzjSHabNcKKGY+8L3KuR1rShIb6X pOnrbqqcWXl28PZVHdDf252uv6CB43TRaN+ssLYVJqUcMaQN5NtMIKVRd3+tv351q94v NunSu1dxVi8wN0OZOWvriOurIh1toRQlRjhbsF/WLxODuR9n7jcAlxfLFzfIab7huJGn Fv96uovClZZAT9+saEJZj8AHEWPP4re/1Yw/AawbK8Qu6xJKysWsRlkyQJbdKKLDFH5h i9Cw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:message-id:mime-version:to:from:subject:date :importance:in-reply-to:references; bh=cttFmcv9NpEc1ukHkURGrMwyb7byamBz7mjguCffhwI=; b=YGCU1i+6ZZLENRfsoP/dyAPoYLFzPpZyiUqN6WOw3r8ANtiFm1uD+iOXGFwzAtJvfh bGEPsDWfTrDZkYea5DpKurFsbNybagzKYEYkDGRe0FBpUrirY4Uu63qx1OwyFxOkE2NF Af+DwgGlrRCjXD7EBCuwrtQSvRDY6P4Em+RhEJcz/tnMg/60pnTK8XSmq/xI8k5nJAcC s2rRtpRgShDNjaMgmQP2pLsOcDhhHBytAH9PliVQjkxS2FEtBiZcpkWiYqwcRgr5SW+q t1VOB62jK2QE1ixy2ZAGBiQkkaWr84ON46iZq6Yycrc/GWGGiT+v/Fce8J+dv1vFELtd iJQA== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/4Iohk7QAPg9u4WkRu0LJI83VV1q12PT4u5kl0jUWfbrxd82EgZ s4/12hS7yuyRYDshQxk9bA== X-Received: by 10.13.231.66 with SMTP id q63mr349687ywe.191.1493221444335; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 08:44:04 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from ?IPv6:::ffff:192.168.254.5? (h196.50.117.75.dynamic.ip.windstream.net. [75.117.50.196]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w133sm256735yww.49.2017.04.26.08.44.02 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Wed, 26 Apr 2017 08:44:03 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <5900c043.8b30810a.66e27.131a@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: RX-8 ignition coil failure Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 11:44:01 -0400 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_6823B6C8-9881-4B43-9CF8-8B00C607BA09_" --_6823B6C8-9881-4B43-9CF8-8B00C607BA09_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Yeah, that allowed it to compile programs OK but still would not link up to= the ICD2 programmer/debugger. Microchip quit supporting the ICD2 after XP= . =20 I=E2=80=99m working on getting up to speed on Microengineering=E2=80=99s de= velopment system but it=E2=80=99s slow going. Tracy Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Finn Lassen Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 11:26 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RX-8 ignition coil failure Have you tried to, on the shortcut or .exe: 1) Right-click and "Run as Administrator". 2) Right-click | Troubleshoot compatibility" ... Program ran with earlier v= ersions ... select XP. Finn On 4/26/2017 8:53 AM, Tracy Crook wrote: I think I failed a total of 5 Renesis coils on the Renesis engine and the 2= 0B.=C2=A0 They were circa 2005 coils.=C2=A0 Don=E2=80=99t know if they ever= improved so I don=E2=80=99t recommend them.=C2=A0 The LS-x coils D 585 coi= ls seem pretty good but don=E2=80=99t go for the cheaper aftermarket ones.= =C2=A0 I failed a couple of those too.=C2=A0 Mounting the coils in a cooler= location helps.=C2=A0 I put mine in a box and ran cool air through it.=C2= =A0 Make sure ambient air around coils does not exceed 130 F for best relia= bility. =C2=A0 If the current limiting resistor in the Lead Coil of 2nd gen 13Bs is replac= ed with a higher wattage resistor, the 2nd gen coils are probably the most = reliable of any I=E2=80=99ve used. =C2=A0 If I can get my development system going again I can reprogram EC2/3s for a= ny of the available coil options.=C2=A0 It quit working with Windows 10 (da= mmit!) =C2=A0 Tracy =C2=A0 Sent from Mail for Windows 10 =C2=A0 From: Dennis Havarlah Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:28 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RX-8 ignition coil failure =C2=A0 Had an ignition coil fail in flight. Hardly noticed it - just could feel a = little roughness of the engine. The coil was an original RX-8 coil with 735= flight hours. Replaced it with one from Auto Zone -=C2=A0$29. I have shopp= ed Amazon and the OEM Mazda coil reviews indicate Mazda coils fail often an= d early! I have found several "racing" or "improved" quality coil deals on = the web and wonder if anyone has tried any of the "Better" coils?=C2=A0 I b= elieve Tracy=C2=A0=C2=A0recommended the =C2=A0AC Delco coils but my EC- 2 w= as built to drive the Mazda RX-8 coil system.=C2=A0 Anyone have an EC-2 set= up for AC Delco coils they want to sell? =C2=A0 Dennis Haverlah =C2=A0 PS:=C2=A0 I have a 3/8 clear vinyl tube attached to the OEM oil filler vent= pipe and never see any oil blown out.=C2=A0 I normally do not exceed 6200 = rpm during normal flight. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matt Boiteau=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 7:24 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: eccentric (crank) case ventalation =C2=A0 I just put a breather on the oil fill tube. Big enough volume tube and I do= ubt oil will travel that far up to the breather. - Matt Boiteau =C2=A0 On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:47 PM, Todd Bartrim = wrote: It's crossed my mind, but while I have a little more time to work on the pl= ane these days, I don't have that much time! You'd be forgiven for thinking= that I'm in the same time zone as our brothers down under, as I'm usually = burning the midnight oil when I'm making postings to the list at the end of= my day.=20 =C2=A0 =C2=A0One of these years I'll make a tour down there and try to time= it with your fly-in. Todd Bartrim =C2=A0 On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Charlie England wrote: Oooo, me like! I've *wondered* about doing that, but never bothered to ask = if anyone's tried it. Works great for cars, so.... How about setting a rotary record & flying down to MS for the roundup next = month? I know you have the tankage for it. :-) Charlie On 4/20/2017 12:14 PM, Todd Bartrim wrote: I just tubed it over to the air filter box, but I've always been curious as= to what others are doing with this as well, but just never bothered to ask= . Todd Bartrim =C2=A0 On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:54 AM, ARGOLDMAN wr= ote: I am finally finishing my renesis rebuild, with so much help from this list= -- thanks =C2=A0 My question is with regard to the ventilation of the case. it seems that th= e rotary has a nipple off of the filler tube for this purpose... (I don't t= hink that I have that tube currently and will probably make one) =C2=A0 Using this port, is it a good idea to just plumb it out of the back of the = airplane as with a crank case vent? Is the amount of oil/vapor created significant enough to collect it and rec= ycle it? =C2=A0 What ch'all doing? =C2=A0 Thanks again, =C2=A0 Rich =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =0DVirus-free. www.avast.com =0D=C2=A0 =C2=A0 -- Homepage:=C2=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub:=C2=A0=C2=A0 http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyro= tary/List.html =C2=A0 -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.= html --_6823B6C8-9881-4B43-9CF8-8B00C607BA09_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

Yeah, that allowed it to compile pro= grams OK but still would not link up to the ICD2 programmer/debugger.=C2=A0= Microchip quit supporting the ICD2 after XP.=C2=A0

 

I=E2=80=99m working on getting = up to speed on Microengineering=E2=80=99s development system but it=E2=80= =99s slow going.

 

Tracy

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Fin= n Lassen
Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2017 11:26 AM
To: <= /b>Rotary motors in aircraft=
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RX-8 ignition coil failure

 

Have you tried to, on the shortcut or .exe:
1) Right-cl= ick and "Run as Administrator".
2) Right-click | Troubleshoot = compatibility" ... Program ran with earlier versions ... select XP.
Finn

On 4/26/2017 8:53 AM, Tracy Crook wrote:=

I think I failed a total of 5 Renesis = coils on the Renesis engine and the 20B.  They were circa 2005 coils.&= nbsp; Don=E2=80=99t know if they ever improved so I don=E2=80=99t recommend= them.  The LS-x coils D 585 coils seem pretty good but don=E2=80=99t = go for the cheaper aftermarket ones.  I failed a couple of those too.&= nbsp; Mounting the coils in a cooler location helps.  I put mine in a = box and ran cool air through it.  Make sure ambient air around coils d= oes not exceed 130 F for best reliability.

 

If the current limiting resistor i= n the Lead Coil of 2nd gen 13Bs is replaced with a higher wattag= e resistor, the 2nd gen coils are probably the most reliable of = any I=E2=80=99ve used.

 

If I can get my development system going again I can re= program EC2/3s for any of the available coil options.  It quit working= with Windows 10 (dammit!)

 

Tracy

 

<= span style=3D'color:black'>Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: De= nnis Havarlah
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:28 PM
To:= Rotary motors in aircra= ft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RX-8 ignition coil failure

 = ;

Had an ignition coil fail in f= light. Hardly noticed it - just could feel a little roughness of the engine= . The coil was an original RX-8 coil with 735 flight hours. Replaced it wit= h one from Auto Zone - $29. I have shopped Amazon and the OEM Mazda co= il reviews indicate Mazda coils fail often and early! I have found several = "racing" or "improved" quality coil deals on the web an= d wonder if anyone has tried any of the "Better" coils?  I b= elieve Tracy  recommended the  AC Delco coils but my EC- 2 w= as built to drive the Mazda RX-8 coil system.  Anyone have an EC-2 set= up for AC Delco coils they want to sell?

 

Den= nis Haverlah

=

 

PS:  I have a 3/8 clea= r vinyl tube attached to the OEM oil filler vent pipe and never see any oil= blown out.  I normally do not exceed 6200 rpm during normal flight.

<= div>

----- Original Mess= age -----

From: Matt Boiteau

Sent: Friday, = April 21, 2017 7:24 PM=

Subje= ct: [FlyRotary] Re: eccentric (crank) case ventalation

 <= /o:p>

I just put a breather on the= oil fill tube. Big enough volume tube and I doubt oil will travel that far= up to the breather.


=

- Matt Boiteau

=

 

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:47 PM, T= odd Bartrim <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

It's crossed my mind, but while I have a little more time= to work on the plane these days, I don't have that much time! You'd be for= given for thinking that I'm in the same time zone as our brothers down unde= r, as I'm usually burning the midnight oil when I'm making postings to the = list at the end of my day.

   One = of these years I'll make a tour down there and try to time it with your fly= -in.


<= /span>

Todd Bartrim

=

 

On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:4= 9 AM, Charlie England <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Oooo, me like! I've *wondered* about doing= that, but never bothered to ask if anyone's tried it. Works great for cars= , so....

How about setting a rotary record & flying down to MS f= or the roundup next month? I know you have the tankage for it. :-)

C= harlie

On 4/20/2017 12:14 PM, Todd Bartrim wrote:<= /p>

I just tubed it over to the air filter box, but I've always been curious = as to what others are doing with this as well, but just never bothered to a= sk.


<= /p>

Todd Bartrim

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On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:54 AM, AR= GOLDMAN <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

I am finally finishing my renesis rebuild, with so much help from this = list-- thanks

 

My question is with regard to the ventilation of = the case. it seems that the rotary has a nipple off of the filler tube for = this purpose... (I don't think that I have that tube currently and will pro= bably make one)

 

Using this port, is it a good idea to just plumb= it out of the back of the airplane as with a crank case vent?

Is the amount of oil/vapor crea= ted significant enough to collect it and recycle it?

 

What ch'al= l doing?

 =

Thanks again,<= /o:p>

 

Rich

 

 

 

 

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