X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Ed Anderson" Received: from [107.14.166.228] (HELO cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c1) with ESMTPS id 9702826 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 08:13:52 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=107.14.166.228; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Return-Path: Received: from [71.75.201.150] ([71.75.201.150:52983] helo=EdPC) by cdptpa-omsmta01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.6.9.48312 r(Core:3.6.9.0)) with ESMTP id A9/5D-03423-FEE80095; Wed, 26 Apr 2017 12:13:35 +0000 Message-ID: <73D6C7AA8A0D4A1FA4DFB9B0074447AB@EdPC> To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: RX-8 ignition coil failure Date: Wed, 26 Apr 2017 08:13:37 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00E4_01D2BE65.01C04D80" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3528.331 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.6:25 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01D2BE65.01C04D80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Dennis, Don=E2=80=99t know if it applies to your version of ignition, but Tracy = and I found early on that the coils were apparently being stressed a bit = more by aircraft application than in the auto. It caused a ceramic = resistor in the base of the ignition coil model to fail. Tracy and I = added higher wattage (I used 25 which I am certain is way overkill) so = large I had to place it outside the coils base, but never had another = ignition failure in the 10 years I flew. A ohm meter check of the = ceramic resistor can quickly tell if that was the problem. Ed From: Dennis Havarlah=20 Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:27 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RX-8 ignition coil failure Had an ignition coil fail in flight. Hardly noticed it - just could feel = a little roughness of the engine. The coil was an original RX-8 coil = with 735 flight hours. Replaced it with one from Auto Zone - $29. I have = shopped Amazon and the OEM Mazda coil reviews indicate Mazda coils fail = often and early! I have found several "racing" or "improved" quality = coil deals on the web and wonder if anyone has tried any of the "Better" = coils? I believe Tracy recommended the AC Delco coils but my EC- 2 = was built to drive the Mazda RX-8 coil system. Anyone have an EC-2 set = up for AC Delco coils they want to sell? Dennis Haverlah PS: I have a 3/8 clear vinyl tube attached to the OEM oil filler vent = pipe and never see any oil blown out. I normally do not exceed 6200 rpm = during normal flight. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Matt Boiteau=20 To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 7:24 PM Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: eccentric (crank) case ventalation I just put a breather on the oil fill tube. Big enough volume tube and = I doubt oil will travel that far up to the breather. - Matt Boiteau On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:47 PM, Todd Bartrim = wrote: It's crossed my mind, but while I have a little more time to work on = the plane these days, I don't have that much time! You'd be forgiven for = thinking that I'm in the same time zone as our brothers down under, as = I'm usually burning the midnight oil when I'm making postings to the = list at the end of my day.=20 One of these years I'll make a tour down there and try to time it = with your fly-in. Todd Bartrim On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:49 AM, Charlie England = wrote: Oooo, me like! I've *wondered* about doing that, but never = bothered to ask if anyone's tried it. Works great for cars, so.... How about setting a rotary record & flying down to MS for the = roundup next month? I know you have the tankage for it. :-) Charlie On 4/20/2017 12:14 PM, Todd Bartrim wrote: I just tubed it over to the air filter box, but I've always been = curious as to what others are doing with this as well, but just never = bothered to ask. Todd Bartrim On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:54 AM, ARGOLDMAN = wrote: I am finally finishing my renesis rebuild, with so much help = from this list-- thanks My question is with regard to the ventilation of the case. it = seems that the rotary has a nipple off of the filler tube for this = purpose... (I don't think that I have that tube currently and will = probably make one) Using this port, is it a good idea to just plumb it out of the = back of the airplane as with a crank case vent? Is the amount of oil/vapor created significant enough to = collect it and recycle it? What ch'all doing? Thanks again, Rich Virus-free. www.avast.com =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- -- Homepage: http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub: = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyrotary/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_00E4_01D2BE65.01C04D80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Dennis,
 
Don=E2=80=99t know if it applies to your version of ignition, but = Tracy and I found=20 early on that the coils were apparently being stressed a bit more by = aircraft=20 application  than in the auto.  It caused a ceramic resistor = in the=20 base of the ignition coil model to fail. Tracy and I added higher = wattage (I=20 used 25 which I am certain is way overkill) so large I had to place it = outside=20 the coils base, but never had another ignition failure in the 10 years I = flew.  A ohm meter check of the ceramic resistor can quickly tell = if that=20 was the problem.
 
 
Ed
 
 
 
Sent: Tuesday, April 25, 2017 9:27 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: RX-8 ignition coil=20 failure
 
Had an ignition coil fail in flight. = Hardly noticed=20 it - just could feel a little roughness of the engine. The coil was an = original=20 RX-8 coil with 735 flight hours. Replaced it with one from Auto Zone - = $29. I=20 have shopped Amazon and the OEM Mazda coil reviews indicate Mazda coils = fail=20 often and early! I have found several "racing" or "improved" quality = coil deals=20 on the web and wonder if anyone has tried any of the "Better" = coils?  I=20 believe Tracy  recommended the  AC Delco coils but my EC- 2 = was built=20 to drive the Mazda RX-8 coil system.  Anyone have an EC-2 set up = for AC=20 Delco coils they want to sell?
 
Dennis Haverlah
 
PS:  I have a 3/8 clear vinyl tube attached to the OEM oil = filler vent=20 pipe and never see any oil blown out.  I normally do not exceed = 6200 rpm=20 during normal flight.
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Matt Boiteau
Sent: Friday, April 21, 2017 = 7:24=20 PM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: = eccentric=20 (crank) case ventalation
 
I just put a breather = on the oil=20 fill tube. Big enough volume tube and I doubt oil will travel that far = up to=20 the breather.
 
- Matt Boiteau
 
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 5:47 PM, Todd Bartrim = <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
It's crossed my mind, but while I have a little more = time to=20 work on the plane these days, I don't have that much time! You'd be = forgiven=20 for thinking that I'm in the same time zone as our brothers down = under, as=20 I'm usually burning the midnight oil when I'm making postings to the = list at=20 the end of my day.=20
   One of these years I'll make a tour down there and = try to=20 time it with your fly-in.
 
Todd Bartrim
 
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 10:49 AM, = Charlie=20 England <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> = wrote:
Oooo, = me=20 like! I've *wondered* about doing that, but never bothered to ask = if=20 anyone's tried it. Works great for cars, so....

How about = setting a=20 rotary record & flying down to MS for the roundup next month? = I know=20 you have the tankage for it. :-)

Charlie

On = 4/20/2017=20 12:14 PM, Todd Bartrim wrote:
I just tubed it over to the air filter box, but = I've always=20 been curious as to what others are doing with this as well, but = just=20 never bothered to ask.
 
Todd Bartrim
 
On Thu, Apr 20, 2017 at 8:54 AM, = ARGOLDMAN=20 <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>=20 wrote:
I am finally finishing my renesis = rebuild, with so=20 much help from this list-- thanks
 
My question is with regard to the = ventilation of the=20 case. it seems that the rotary has a nipple off of the filler = tube for=20 this purpose... (I don't think that I have that tube currently = and=20 will probably make one)
 
Using this port, is it a good idea to = just plumb it=20 out of the back of the airplane as with a crank case=20 vent?
Is the amount of oil/vapor created = significant=20 enough to collect it and recycle it?
 
What ch'all = doing?
 
Thanks again,
 
Rich
 
 
 


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