X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Charlie England" Received: from mail-ot0-f171.google.com ([74.125.82.171] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.2c1) with ESMTPS id 9594156 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 16:57:50 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=74.125.82.171; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-ot0-f171.google.com with SMTP id y88so3820385ota.2 for ; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:57:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to; bh=x9sfFve6D7xnEDzgLqBXOE/14u8VuNozOiY3iukDnNc=; b=PoO+Ucg1k9dqq5uDLq71dRJfECXlo0FMuXgFUnFUZQtQYct8Cre0U3bKTdtxGMO/v9 JWi9asVx/cO2vXMa+sj6aC64Y4+tPnv34FKEAdWn1lOVQXp2mcUVk2WjCEinGiAxV/Bt WP1bupsoBXI3KeN1XegVou5c6/WFBhvMFUFa+ooCmfam3/30c6oBYYxY0Z2kxZss0kcV E25VqqpZpJ5+yQZ/t9bETfWtXXxf35PWyVt/leknNCeYYlFDbDU6iE62be3Cq+a6Ozcs JubqiVZ9HeN2TXToGPkxTZ0+LnmNjuiWsyM0BNwbMtbMIQPR4WLuDL+CXPgnS8F1hBpq l3Pw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to; bh=x9sfFve6D7xnEDzgLqBXOE/14u8VuNozOiY3iukDnNc=; b=Px374ZUFZq9ZahQlp7zYIOJL3UYzcw9IuXDljjDqbP78E1zucpoWvp7jyD+jDMbLnh XSb4hZuLuS3jkN21pLup6kHY0qNS3UopFs+DfxUOe0fRGrzkYA9PANit5CXCURzhJtjq DPqqTtoPDliTfOGdkVa6NOuYSNY239BrK2se+botEYK9oi6DRU9pp7oOfx68uPm9qcRy HfhGk1rQqgSuS3O2yEmIvxZumfiLh9jhf0XQUa3cr29P4dDHg+UExgF8S04kMRTiaeFv jh64GtY9VE98NNIBej0+soBdoRE8nG3LZPd3M+sU4XW363nFgDZXAEZJT1IAkbwfDpdY m7bw== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H3knX8x705+EBlCXkyZmH3qkeGC1GUycHfrZMhSKPyQzA/QLthxZW8NqF8UOHyzyg== X-Received: by 10.157.5.8 with SMTP id 8mr18029962otw.170.1490129851518; Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:57:31 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from ?IPv6:2602:306:25fb:1599:a476:6fca:5659:407? ([2602:306:25fb:1599:a476:6fca:5659:407]) by smtp.googlemail.com with ESMTPSA id g10sm9466875oic.16.2017.03.21.13.57.30 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 21 Mar 2017 13:57:30 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: fuel system peer review To: Rotary motors in aircraft References: Message-ID: <8d56d1f1-74b3-56e5-984e-b9d1c429e47b@gmail.com> Date: Tue, 21 Mar 2017 15:59:25 -0500 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:45.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/45.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------D6D7FF59E97706964C702A30" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------D6D7FF59E97706964C702A30 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit On 3/21/2017 9:37 AM, Tom Mann wrote: > >I'm willing to live with the risk of a clogged vent. If a vent clogs, > I'll be coming down faster from fuel starvation than from over > pressurizing the tank > _______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > I recently reconfigured the fuel system in my Velocity. > The wing tanks drain to a split (left/right) sump tank. > All tanks are vented to a common manifold which sits up high and has > two vents for redundancy. > Each side of the sump is vented to the manifold with an inline check > valve. That allows air out of the sump but not in, > Each wing (Strake) tank is vented to the manifold. > As a safety measure the manifold has a check valve that allows air to > flow into the vent system (from the cabin) should the external vent > ever become obstructed. > Since the system would normally be slightly pressurized, the check > valve is typically closed. > 2 cents & change. > T Mann Unfortunately, gravity fed sumps aren't feasible in an RV-x. The quickdrain on the wing tank is the lowest point in the fuel system. I've tried to keep the actual fuel delivery path and vent system in the fuselage as close to stock as possible; the transfer idea is the farthest I've strayed from that path, and it's unlikely it will end up in the plane. Thanks, Charlie --------------D6D7FF59E97706964C702A30 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
On 3/21/2017 9:37 AM, Tom Mann wrote:
>I'm willing to live with the risk of a clogged vent. If a vent clogs, I'll be coming down faster from fuel starvation than from over pressurizing the tank
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I recently reconfigured the fuel system in my Velocity.
The wing tanks drain to a split (left/right) sump tank.
All tanks are vented to a common manifold which sits up high and has two vents for redundancy.
Each side of the sump is vented to the manifold with an inline check valve. That allows  air out of the sump but not in,
Each wing (Strake) tank is vented  to the manifold.
As a safety measure the manifold  has a check valve that allows air to flow into the vent system (from the cabin) should the external vent ever become obstructed.
Since the system would normally be slightly pressurized, the check valve is typically closed.
 
2 cents & change.
 
T Mann
Unfortunately, gravity fed sumps aren't feasible in an RV-x. The quickdrain on the wing tank is the lowest point in the fuel system.

I've tried to keep the actual fuel delivery path and vent system in the fuselage as close to stock as possible; the transfer idea is the farthest I've strayed from that path, and it's unlikely it will end up in the plane.

Thanks,

Charlie


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