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(h62.8.17.98.dynamic.ip.windstream.net. [98.17.8.62]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id z37sm5925272ywj.39.2017.02.09.10.14.05 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Feb 2017 10:14:05 -0800 (PST) Message-ID: <589cb16d.65ac810a.61191.c475@mx.google.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 To: "Bobby J. Hughes" Subject: RE: [FlyRotary] Re: SDS EFI Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2017 13:14:01 -0500 Importance: normal X-Priority: 3 In-Reply-To: References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_CB9C904B-2D60-4DA3-9454-8D03A194FACA_" --_CB9C904B-2D60-4DA3-9454-8D03A194FACA_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I think there is a much more cost effective solution for the ECU than the M= 4. When I first started development of the EC1/2/3, I looked at the Megasq= uirt controllers but the hardware and especially the software was not at a = point where I felt it was good enough. In the 20+ years since then, MUCH p= rogress has been made and it has developed into a much more sophisticated s= ystem. It also has the benefit of being Open Source in both software and ha= rdware so you can customize it to your hearts content. I=E2=80=99m happy with the EC2/3s on my planes but I=E2=80=99m using Megasq= uirts on new projects (hotrods mostly). They are dirt cheap and the tuning= tools for them are way more developed than even the latest version of the = EC3 too. Bobby=E2=80=99s idea of using two, one each for leading and trailing igni= tion is a good one. I=E2=80=99d do that on my planes if I were starting to= day.=20 Tracy Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Bobby J. Hughes Sent: Thursday, February 9, 2017 12:11 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SDS EFI Bill, I for one appreciate you (and Neil=E2=80=99s) continuing effort to develop = a reliable gearbox. New rotary installs are done without this critical piec= e of hardware. I like Ross=E2=80=99s systems and dual controller philosophy= as well. =C2=A0Each controller has an separate CAS and each controller act= ively fires a set of plugs. In our case A controller would fire leading and= B controller would fire trailing. Injector can be fired from either contro= ller with a selection switch like Tracy=E2=80=99s. If not for Tracy EC3 I w= ould be bugging him for an alternative. The Motec M4 has the ability to pro= gram the location of the CAS. Crip Function I believe. This opens up the po= ssibility for dual M4=E2=80=99s utilizing Ross=E2=80=99s dual controller ph= ilosophy and possibly is injector relay box. Each M4 runs about $2000 but I= do see some used ones on eBay for less than $1000. =C2=A0=E2=80=93 Ouch! Keep us posted on the P-port and PSRU development. Bobby From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]=20 Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2017 10:36 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SDS EFI Richard, Ross and I specifically talked about running the rotary. I really like Ross= ' system and I would like to run it. In the past he had a system dedicated = to the 2 rotor. It is very much like a 4 cylinder piston system. If he has = stopped making it that would be a shame. I don't like the Halltech units I = have seen and the alternative is the Motec which is a good system but over = priced compared to the SDS. Bill On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 5:05 AM, Richard Van Camp wrote: Bill, Ross's system cannot be used to fueling the rotary.=C2=A0 He recommended th= e Haltech or, others for that purpose. Rick -- Homepage:=C2=A0 http://www.flyrotary.com/ Archive and UnSub:=C2=A0 =C2=A0http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/flyro= tary/List.html --_CB9C904B-2D60-4DA3-9454-8D03A194FACA_ Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"

I think there is a much more cost ef= fective solution for the ECU than the M4.=C2=A0 When I first started develo= pment of the EC1/2/3, I looked at the Megasquirt controllers but the hardwa= re and especially the software was not at a point where I felt it was good = enough.=C2=A0 In the 20+ years since then, MUCH progress has been made and = it has developed into a much more sophisticated system. It also has the ben= efit of being Open Source in both software and hardware so you can customiz= e it to your hearts content.

 

<= p class=3DMsoNormal>I=E2=80=99m happy with the EC2/3s on my planes but I=E2= =80=99m using Megasquirts on new projects (hotrods mostly).=C2=A0 They are = dirt cheap and the tuning tools for them are way more developed than even t= he latest version of the EC3 too.

 =

=C2=A0 Bobby=E2=80=99s idea of using two, one each= for leading and trailing ignition is a good one.=C2=A0 I=E2=80=99d do that= on my planes if I were starting today.

 = ;

Tracy

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Bobby J. Hughes
Sent: Thursday, February= 9, 2017 12:11 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SDS EF= I

 

<= span style=3D'color:#1F497D'>Bill,

 

I for one appreciate you (and Neil= =E2=80=99s) continuing effort to develop a reliable gearbox. New rotary= installs are done without this critical piece of hardware. I like Ross=E2= =80=99s systems and dual controller philosophy as well.  Each controll= er has an separate CAS and each controller actively fires a set of plugs. I= n our case A controller would fire leading and B controller would fire trai= ling. Injector can be fired from either controller with a selection switch = like Tracy=E2=80=99s. If not for Tracy EC3 I would be bugging him for an al= ternative. The Motec M4 has the ability to program the location of the CAS.= Crip Function I believe. This opens up the possibility for dual M4=E2=80= =99s utilizing Ross=E2=80=99s dual controller philosophy and possibly is in= jector relay box. Each M4 runs about $2000 but I do see some used ones on e= Bay for less than $1000.  =E2=80=93 Ouch!

 

Keep us posted on the P-por= t and PSRU development.

 

Bobby

 

From:= Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sen= t: Thursday, February 09, 2017 10:36 AM
To: Rotary motors in = aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: SDS EFI

 

Richard,

Ross and I spec= ifically talked about running the rotary. I really like Ross' system and I = would like to run it. In the past he had a system dedicated to the 2 rotor.= It is very much like a 4 cylinder piston system. If he has stopped making = it that would be a shame. I don't like the Halltech units I have seen and t= he alternative is the Motec which is a good system but over priced compared= to the SDS.

Bill

=

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 5:05 AM, Ri= chard Van Camp <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Bill= ,

Ross's system cannot be used to fueling the rotary.  He recom= mended the Haltech or, others for that purpose.


Rick

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