X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Andrew Martin" Received: from mail-yw0-f180.google.com ([209.85.161.180] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.11) with ESMTPS id 8816795 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 21:58:36 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.180; envelope-from=andrew@martinag.com.au Received: by mail-yw0-f180.google.com with SMTP id j12so127281661ywb.2 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 18:58:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=martinag-com-au.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=CIsQIQoniVkAfCiO1FZAqgzQfGbyv6DO7DKlBkWhVdg=; b=APU5SXKi4iTyarnEa4ItQ3PftaLXII1NSzEEto4p4NUozmSaG8sDUazXAfJManhOfr fYLrsQ8ciSRoEYzJbpQeI7YpOon/TDUvAN/JRCSTZQQ5SCddnccZ3wVOBFkkaFbraINM hgrWyrDwGLBCH2GsMuKQnsJAAwGOA3BJOhJHZzg48p7DdxmWYYn0SIO6gEVDkUXLv5Xt yvxHEg7J3kBayW3YrJ9ktVTgeECK2lSQ1K5P+NueExfFgxjhUu/OsC4vfs3SjiF7qE1z NMLwSMVPQu+zEjVCHyJcEW5K7l5Hhrgb2MkXgEiFR6zKZ2ctQwbENC1kFLjFf6K39SRh dhKw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=CIsQIQoniVkAfCiO1FZAqgzQfGbyv6DO7DKlBkWhVdg=; b=e4TnNR6KNJ3Bb4KLkv/LuZTDtz6jMiBu5WkMvwXeW7wBsvD0DJkObnrPqxi2gVtgZy /SOdkT1f23ERIwGM39Ql4djMZp8a+skyZxMXuDYjXaqj4U84I9/AuOmGkOmj9udCJim7 t8hNu7gba3b3kfYzXpdAo0kgeHKskcpfRZO6S+Qy4DDW3H7DaVhfHs1a6kaHzNLEitWK d8F5xitN9kIjJPOvThyGw1SSZiwZeI/VWShNUwpJRFIcU1xg2dM1qL1ilV+nvogY4xeI R438VTHv3hZk3PksiV4o1zGDcvb6hWPdhauq0Kxl+Y3IVIi1YdeSiPix7prBGIkWRns3 MzXQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoouutO0KKqNIC5ATc0WAQyWTUWPGh1QnYiS1x7kKY+bkVE4NibtO4XX2M/ENG32RdZ+4Q2nU4Pp48PdilYw== X-Received: by 10.129.114.86 with SMTP id n83mr10574777ywc.100.1469325496981; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 18:58:16 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.83.13.136 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 18:58:16 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [2002:ca28:28:1234:102f:7fca:3ed7:80a9] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sun, 24 Jul 2016 09:58:16 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] rebuild To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11473b904ec98e053858005d --001a11473b904ec98e053858005d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ed, I'll find some an try them Cheers Andrew On Saturday, 23 July 2016, Ed Anderson wrote: > Hi Andrew, > > I initially shared your views on soldered pins having fewer problems than > crimped pins. That is until I used =E2=80=9Cmachined=E2=80=9D pins for c= rimping. Using > machined pins provided a level of reliability much better than my crimped > pins using the =E2=80=9Ctin foil=E2=80=9D pins. Turns out even better th= an solder as it > did not have a sharp stress point as a solder join may have. The machine > pins have a solid body with a cavity in one in for the wire, a crimp puts > 3-4 indentions into the barrel of the pin and secures the wire. You can > really pull on the wire and I have never had one come out. > > Naturally, If it is done correctly then just about any method will work= , > but my personal opinion is that using machined pins and crimping is the > best method I have found. > > There is one downside to using machined pins =E2=80=93 they are pricy. B= ut, then > what price for a reliable connection =E2=80=93 right? I only used them f= or what I > considered flight critical connections due to cost and never had one fail= . > > Not suggesting you change anything, just wanted to give you my benefit of > going down the same path. > > Ed > > Edward L. Anderson > Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC > 305 Reefton Road > Weddington, NC 28104 > http://www.dmack.net/mazda/ (my rotary installation and a bit more) > http://www.andersonee.com > http://www.eicommander.com > > *From:* Andrew Martin > > *Sent:* Saturday, July 23, 2016 11:02 AM > *To:* Rotary motors in aircraft > > *Subject:* [FlyRotary] Re: rebuild > > Thanks Charlie. Yes all my earths go back to a forrest of tabs. Pretty > sure it will be an earth issue also, as its a new problem on a system tha= t > has been working well. Some connections are crimped as in the later part = of > wiring I got a bit tired of sniffing solder. Nearly all my wiring problem= s > are associated with those crimped connections so I just solder them now a= s > they appear. > > There is an aerial ag business based on our farm, I watch & admire them > flying close to the edge of the air all the time. But its not for me, I > really do prefer to fly in the middle, so I just wanted make sure the pla= ne > would cool enough to get me there next time. But yeah, I'll take the > wheels off & check to see if I've spun a bearing. > > Andrew > > > > > -- > Regards > Andrew Martin > Martin Ag > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2016.0.7442 / Virus Database: 4627/12666 - Release Date: 07/23/1= 6 > --=20 Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag --001a11473b904ec98e053858005d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Ed, I'll find some an try them

Cheers Andrew<= br>
On Saturday, 23 July 2016, Ed Anderson <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Hi Andrew,
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I initially shared your views on soldered pins having fewer problems t= han=20 crimped pins.=C2=A0 That is until I used =E2=80=9Cmachined=E2=80=9D pins fo= r crimping. Using=20 machined pins provided a level of reliability much better than my crimped p= ins=20 using the =E2=80=9Ctin foil=E2=80=9D pins.=C2=A0 Turns out even better than= solder as it did not=20 have a sharp stress point as a solder join may have.=C2=A0 The machine pins= have=20 a solid body with a cavity in one in for the wire, a crimp puts 3-4 indenti= ons=20 into the barrel of the pin and secures the wire.=C2=A0 You can really pull = on=20 the wire and I have never had one come out.
=C2=A0
Naturally,=C2=A0=C2=A0 If it is done correctly then just about any met= hod=20 will work, but my personal opinion is that using machined pins and crimping= is=20 the best method I have found.
=C2=A0
There is one downside to using machined pins =E2=80=93 they are pricy.= =C2=A0 But,=20 then what price for a reliable connection =E2=80=93 right?=C2=A0 I only use= d them for=20 what I considered flight critical connections due to cost and never had one= =20 fail.
=C2=A0
Not suggesting you change anything, just wanted to give you my benefit= of=20 going down the same path.
=C2=A0
Ed
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Edw= ard L.=20 Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton=20 Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.dmack.net/m= azda/=C2=A0 (my=20 rotary installation and a bit more)
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Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 11:02 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rebuild
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= Thanks=20 Charlie. Yes all my earths go back to a forrest of tabs. Pretty sure it wil= l be=20 an earth issue also, as its a new problem on a system that has been working= =20 well. Some connections are crimped as in the later part of wiring I got a b= it=20 tired of sniffing solder. Nearly all my wiring problems are associated with= =20 those crimped connections so I just solder them now as they appear.=20
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There is an aerial ag business based on our farm, I watch & admire= them=20 flying close to the edge of the air all the time. But its not for me, I rea= lly=20 do prefer to fly in the middle, so I just wanted make sure the plane would = cool=20 enough to get me there next time.=C2=A0 But yeah, I'll take the wheels = off &=20 check to see if I've spun a bearing.
=C2=A0
Andrew




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Andrew Martin
Martin=20 Ag

No virus found in this=20 message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2016.0.7442 / Virus=20 Database: 4627/12666 - Release Date:=20 07/23/16



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Martin Ag
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