X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Ed Anderson" Received: from [107.14.166.231] (HELO cdptpa-oedge-vip.email.rr.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.11) with ESMTP id 8816267 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 11:43:21 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=107.14.166.231; envelope-from=eanderson@carolina.rr.com Return-Path: Received: from [71.75.210.154] ([71.75.210.154:56944] helo=EdPC) by cdptpa-oedge01 (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 3.5.0.35861 r(Momo-dev:tip)) with ESMTP id 20/4A-22225-78093975; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 15:43:03 +0000 Message-ID: To: "Rotary motors in aircraft" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: rebuild Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 11:42:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0027_01D1E4D7.536981A0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 16.4.3528.331 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V16.4.3528.331 X-RR-Connecting-IP: 107.14.168.118:25 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01D1E4D7.536981A0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Andrew, I initially shared your views on soldered pins having fewer problems = than crimped pins. That is until I used =E2=80=9Cmachined=E2=80=9D pins = for crimping. Using machined pins provided a level of reliability much = better than my crimped pins using the =E2=80=9Ctin foil=E2=80=9D pins. = Turns out even better than solder as it did not have a sharp stress = point as a solder join may have. The machine pins have a solid body = with a cavity in one in for the wire, a crimp puts 3-4 indentions into = the barrel of the pin and secures the wire. You can really pull on the = wire and I have never had one come out. Naturally, If it is done correctly then just about any method will = work, but my personal opinion is that using machined pins and crimping = is the best method I have found. There is one downside to using machined pins =E2=80=93 they are pricy. = But, then what price for a reliable connection =E2=80=93 right? I only = used them for what I considered flight critical connections due to cost = and never had one fail. Not suggesting you change anything, just wanted to give you my benefit = of going down the same path. Ed=20 Edward L. Anderson Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC 305 Reefton Road Weddington, NC 28104 http://www.dmack.net/mazda/ (my rotary installation and a bit more) http://www.andersonee.com http://www.eicommander.com From: Andrew Martin=20 Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 11:02 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft=20 Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rebuild Thanks Charlie. Yes all my earths go back to a forrest of tabs. Pretty = sure it will be an earth issue also, as its a new problem on a system = that has been working well. Some connections are crimped as in the later = part of wiring I got a bit tired of sniffing solder. Nearly all my = wiring problems are associated with those crimped connections so I just = solder them now as they appear.=20 There is an aerial ag business based on our farm, I watch & admire them = flying close to the edge of the air all the time. But its not for me, I = really do prefer to fly in the middle, so I just wanted make sure the = plane would cool enough to get me there next time. But yeah, I'll take = the wheels off & check to see if I've spun a bearing. Andrew --=20 Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2016.0.7442 / Virus Database: 4627/12666 - Release Date: = 07/23/16 ------=_NextPart_000_0027_01D1E4D7.536981A0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Andrew,
 
I initially shared your views on soldered pins having fewer = problems than=20 crimped pins.  That is until I used =E2=80=9Cmachined=E2=80=9D pins = for crimping. Using=20 machined pins provided a level of reliability much better than my = crimped pins=20 using the =E2=80=9Ctin foil=E2=80=9D pins.  Turns out even better = than solder as it did not=20 have a sharp stress point as a solder join may have.  The machine = pins have=20 a solid body with a cavity in one in for the wire, a crimp puts 3-4 = indentions=20 into the barrel of the pin and secures the wire.  You can really = pull on=20 the wire and I have never had one come out.
 
Naturally,   If it is done correctly then just about any = method=20 will work, but my personal opinion is that using machined pins and = crimping is=20 the best method I have found.
 
There is one downside to using machined pins =E2=80=93 they are = pricy.  But,=20 then what price for a reliable connection =E2=80=93 right?  I only = used them for=20 what I considered flight critical connections due to cost and never had = one=20 fail.
 
Not suggesting you change anything, just wanted to give you my = benefit of=20 going down the same path.
 
Ed
 
Edward L.=20 Anderson
Anderson Electronic Enterprises LLC
305 Reefton=20 Road
Weddington, NC 28104
http://www.dmack.net/mazda/ = ; (my=20 rotary installation and a bit more)
http://www.andersonee.com
http://www.eicommander.com
 
Sent: Saturday, July 23, 2016 11:02 AM
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: rebuild
 
Thanks=20 Charlie. Yes all my earths go back to a forrest of tabs. Pretty sure it = will be=20 an earth issue also, as its a new problem on a system that has been = working=20 well. Some connections are crimped as in the later part of wiring I got = a bit=20 tired of sniffing solder. Nearly all my wiring problems are associated = with=20 those crimped connections so I just solder them now as they appear.=20
 
There is an aerial ag business based on our farm, I watch & = admire them=20 flying close to the edge of the air all the time. But its not for me, I = really=20 do prefer to fly in the middle, so I just wanted make sure the plane = would cool=20 enough to get me there next time.  But yeah, I'll take the wheels = off &=20 check to see if I've spun a bearing.
 
Andrew




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Andrew Martin
Martin=20 Ag

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