X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Charlie England" Received: from mail-yw0-f178.google.com ([209.85.161.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.11) with ESMTPS id 8816036 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 09:07:02 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.178; envelope-from=ceengland7@gmail.com Received: by mail-yw0-f178.google.com with SMTP id z8so103960653ywa.1 for ; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 06:07:02 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=Gl1qeMacmbiPlk8nbFFxiCtVsZug4MTlUXNu+xjH8yw=; b=Ra9Pp43L6M/iVRfJ4lijvk/CYtssySpxNFO61x1N0CB2EyQWw5meNbYE2YK+sDoaHT LmWO0b7XwOFUvNnkih+6Mjd2codHYW9099h4T/330BdjXTMz+X4V4DU5qVuu3y8RTGAy N3nmOzq8ockHzItchSUfhYu344HObJFV0GfwLUOwBKjcWn0SxOQi1AzVSDMHE1/WZA49 RSvGjJ1f4Wi08FG8UD9voSJTRmRyECyBjYb5Fh5fuMvJfGYP1vIByzAdv6KfAJxVt52R 59XXPjxSPWo548W835aCrKTEEUpF0tGUppNm1UGzAS/dOBstfJn12gR/KHN439I/tjq9 0F+g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=Gl1qeMacmbiPlk8nbFFxiCtVsZug4MTlUXNu+xjH8yw=; b=R9KqOgZyPkpwtqUwsOFSlnzsSIZIa6hFerXTgfTpDfLO3NZ1nAybdSvjAp+1+WuOzV RS8W5onuxNXQcfnaO9qNGEKCgtzC0Eqm5ztGQF+CKSU96crXDRLmw1pjIl4n8/Ojx0MW DqsIhm8joO6gAX79atOEkDClT9HGWe5vyrjDo/Phrn2+xK3gdXbzUKoqIoDVhOKwnoQI KmKHOgeB0xzI0HSx/m8hHMO5PO8X8/12vTJVl8xUtzdp/j3qV7Cu7t1Jxq1BamHDHvtJ G46xXg37h6rnnSbwE0v5bbeR/a8L6xODyldM49b8+AMGWunR3eYLfUD9TpzcFKtp3ZN9 CEoA== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkooutLJVpeOFdV3rYOCIK52z2rZ3XNpbUL5LEDGc0vcLxRgMPDVgdt6Ij2e+LDEzbto8UfTNqZmovVRbkiKg== X-Received: by 10.37.210.131 with SMTP id j125mr7633346ybg.4.1469279204393; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 06:06:44 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.129.164.21 with HTTP; Sat, 23 Jul 2016 06:06:44 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 23 Jul 2016 08:06:44 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: rebuild To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0624d00dc6d605384d397e --94eb2c0624d00dc6d605384d397e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 6:11 AM, Andrew Martin wrote: > Ok, an update. > > Turns out I rebuilt an engine for no reason other than for the experience. > seems no damage from my problems on first flight. decided to replace all > the soft parts but as I live just a bit West of most on this forum, it > makes it a bit hard to get parts, even Mazda could not deliver orings > without 3 week delay so I just bought some viton cord for the coolant rings > and made my own. they seem to be holding up Ok for now. > > When I reinstalled the engine, filled it up with coolant and pressure > tested, it leaked like a bastard past a hose clamp on the rear iron. The > fitting is usually used for cabin heat in the car but I got it blocked off > and didn't touch it during the rebuild, so now I'm pretty sure this is > where the coolant leaked from on that first flight. > > Have now installed a fence in the ducting to separate oil and coolant > radiators and opened up the air intake about 50% bigger to try and get more > air in. Its the dead of winter here, so daily temps are about 20c , doesn't > get much colder only hotter as summer approaches so I need to get this > thing flying soon to be able to take advantage of the cool temps. > > Took it out onto the main rwy for a fast taxi run, its a long long taxi to > get to the threshold so temps rise and hopes drop, but on the rwy temps are > 140 coolant 180 oil at 70kts. so confidant I can probably stabilize the > temps in flight now. > > But I tell yer, if I ever catch that bloody Murphy bloke, I'll make him > squeal. for some reason now everytime I transmit on the radio the engine > runs crook, let go of the ptt and all good again, and the fast run down the > paddock done something to one of my wheels as there was a horrible noise > from down there on the taxi back to the shed. so I got things to sort out > first tomorrow. > > Andrew > > Radio transmission driving other electronics crazy is often a ground path issue. (That's assuming the antenna wiring run was done correctly, with the coax shield properly terminated at the radio and to the ground plane at the antenna.) Did you bring all your power supply ground returns to a central point near the battery? If not, the radio may be finding a ground return path through the engine controller's ground path, which can make the controller see significant voltage swings, and the 'noise' from the radio. Careful on the high speed ground work; that's an unnatural act in an airplane. Kinda like, it's relatively easy to dribble a basketball (or a soccer ball), but hard to stand on either one. Charlie --94eb2c0624d00dc6d605384d397e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Sat, Jul 23, 2016 at 6:11 AM, Andrew Martin <flyrotary@la= ncaironline.net> wrote:
Ok, an update.

Tur= ns out I rebuilt an engine for no reason other than for the experience. see= ms no damage from my problems on first flight. decided to replace all the s= oft parts but as I live just a bit West of most on this forum, it makes it = a bit hard to get parts, even Mazda could not deliver orings without 3 week= delay so I just bought some viton cord for the coolant rings and made my o= wn. they seem to be holding up Ok for now.

When I reinstalled = the engine, filled it up with coolant and pressure tested, it leaked like a= bastard past a hose clamp on the rear iron.=C2=A0 The fitting is usually u= sed for cabin heat in the car but I got it blocked off and didn't touch= it during the rebuild, so now I'm pretty sure this is where the coolan= t leaked from on that first flight.

Have now installed a fence= in the ducting to separate oil and coolant radiators and opened up the air= intake about 50% bigger to try and get more air in. Its the dead of winter= here, so daily temps are about 20c , doesn't get much colder only hott= er as summer approaches so I need to get this thing flying soon to be able = to take advantage of the cool temps.

Took it out onto the mai= n rwy for a fast taxi run, its a long long taxi to get to the threshold so = temps rise and hopes drop, but on the rwy temps are 140 coolant 180 oil at = 70kts. so confidant I can probably stabilize the temps in flight now.
But I tell yer, if I ever catch that bloody Murphy bloke, I'll = make him squeal.=C2=A0 for some reason now everytime I transmit on the radi= o the engine runs crook, let go of the ptt and all good again, and the fast= run down the paddock done something to one of my wheels as there was a hor= rible noise from down there on the taxi back to the shed. so I got things t= o sort out first tomorrow.
An= drew

Radio transmission driving other electronics crazy is of= ten a ground path issue. (That's assuming the antenna wiring run was do= ne correctly, with the coax shield properly terminated at the radio and to = the ground plane at the antenna.)

Did you bring all your power supply ground retu= rns to a central point near the battery? If not, the radio may be finding a= ground return path through the engine controller's ground path, which = can make the controller see significant voltage swings, and the 'noise&= #39; from the radio.

Careful on the high speed ground work; that's an unnat= ural act in an airplane. Kinda like, it's relatively easy to dribble a = basketball (or a soccer ball), but hard to stand on either one.

Charlie
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