X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: Received: from omr-a001e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.53] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.11) with ESMTPS id 8812790 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:47:02 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.29.186.53; envelope-from=ARGOLDMAN@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-aab02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aab02.mx.aol.com [172.26.126.208]) by omr-a001e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 9AF773800081 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:46:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-abd03e.mail.aol.com (core-abd03.mail.aol.com [172.27.0.13]) by mtaomg-aab02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id CC30D38000087 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:46:43 -0400 (EDT) Full-name: ARGOLDMAN Message-ID: <4e26ae.50117b57.44c27293@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 14:46:43 -0400 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: How do you run these things???? To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4e26ae.50117b57.44c27293_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.8 sub 2019 X-Originating-IP: [50.151.84.32] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1469126804; bh=lGARIQ0C72CjNPVdhGyc8tOa07Qf8We5paOJ6Lmv71Y=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=dvGvUayl7M8FtQXL54zrwG8KL3uZSAyCw/mPaGs8sZBlAxLehkfQkpILkFWTzVQJ4 GWxHef2uQmdLwl6zsL/fhI2XIS3uj9EkvRT7z/N9dKybIk/hghpiXXcTOoYe9HEhQp 3McwQQjFrFAdONpH5LwXUUoTkj5qIePFh9mYQLRU= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a7ed05791189371dd --part1_4e26ae.50117b57.44c27293_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en So to reiterate, it seems like you can do almost anything to these engines= =20 as long as they run smoothly and don't exceed the temperature limits. =20 Am I close?? =20 Rich =20 =20 In a message dated 7/21/2016 11:30:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, =20 flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: I also set the prop for 2300 on down wind. This provides me with enough = =20 rpm for a comfortable go around without as much prop breaking effect. =20 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 21, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Bobby J. Hughes <_flyrotary@lancaironline.net= _=20 (mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net) > wrote: What Bill said. With the super charger I run 4800-5200 in cruise. 12.5 F/= A=20 for take off and climb. This provides cooler EGT's. 15.8 f/a for lean= =20 cruise. Cool EGT's. I stay away from 14:7 f/a / peak EGT's. =20 The EC2/3 have a programmed rpm limit. I think mine is 7500.=20 Bobby=20 Sent from my iPhone On Jul 21, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Bill Bradburry <_flyrotary@lancaironline.net= _=20 (mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net) > wrote: =20 =20 Rich,=20 If your prop will allow it, I take off at 7100 rpm, best power, WOT. =20 After I get 6-700 ft, I dial the rpm back to about 6500, still best power= and=20 WOT. For cruise about 5800-6000, leaned about 50 degrees below peak, sti= ll =20 WOT. The only time I adjust the throttle is during the approach to =20 landing, otherwise WOT. Adjust power with the rpm. Temp is the critical= factor=20 if you don=E2=80=99t yet know how the setup cools. I have a red line of= 220 on=20 water and have never seen my oil above 200. On a really hot day I can se= e the=20 temp hit 220 by the time I am reducing power. The power reduction and=20 increase the speed from 100K to 120K and it cools right down with my setu= p. I=20 see about 180 water and 160 oil in cruise.=20 If you have a pusher be aware of your pitch on rotation and landing. How= =20 much clearance do you have for the prop?=20 Bill=20 =20 =20 ____________________________________ =20 From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] =20 Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 9:31 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: How do you run these things???? =20 =20 =20 Thanks all, for the replies, =20 =20 I can rotate a little more easily now. =20 =20 Because I am a pusher (that doesn't sound exactly right) My in-cabin nois= e=20 may be less than with a tractor, and because the aircraft is glass perhap= s=20 it will be a little quieter. In any case, because I am a little (?) older= =20 I may not hear the noise as acutely as younger eared people. =20 =20 So I won't worry about the throttle setting and keep my TO RPMs at or=20 below the Renesis recommended stats. =20 =20 That still leaves the mixture question unleaned. =20 =20 Any thoughts of what to do with the mixture???? =20 =20 Thanks again, =20 =20 Rich --part1_4e26ae.50117b57.44c27293_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Language: en
So to reiterate, it seems like you can do almost anything to these en= gines=20 as long as they run smoothly and don't exceed the temperature limits.
 
Am I close??
 
Rich
 
In a message dated 7/21/2016 11:30:55 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,=20 flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:
I also set the prop for 2300 on down wind. This provides me with en= ough=20 rpm for a comfortable go around without as much prop breaking effect.=20   

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 21, 2016, at 1:20 PM, Bobby J. Hughes <flyrotary@lancaironline.net<= /A>>=20 wrote:

What Bill said. With the super charger I run 4800-5200 in cruise.= 12.5=20 F/A for take off and climb.  This provides cooler EGT's.  15= .8 f/a=20 for lean cruise. Cool EGT's.  I stay away from 14:7 f/a / peak EG= T's.=20  

The EC2/3 have a programmed rpm limit. &n= bsp;I=20 think mine is 7500. 


Bobby 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 21, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.ne= t>=20 wrote:

Rich,

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If your= prop will=20 allow it, I take off at 7100 rpm, best power, WOT.  After I get= 6-700=20 ft, I dial the rpm back to about 6500, still best power and WOT.&nbs= p; For=20 cruise about 5800-6000, leaned about 50 degrees below peak, still=20 WOT.  The only time I adjust the throttle is during the approac= h to=20 landing, otherwise WOT.  Adjust power with the rpm.  Temp= is the=20 critical factor if you don=E2=80=99t yet know how the setup cools.&n= bsp; I have a=20 red line of 220 on water and have never seen my oil above 200. = On a=20 really hot day I can see the temp hit 220 by the time I am reducing= =20 power.  The power reduction and increase the speed from 100K to= 120K=20 and it cools right down with my setup.  I see about 180 water= and 160=20 oil in cruise.

&nbs= p;

If you ha= ve a=20 pusher be aware of your pitch on rotation and landing.  How muc= h=20 clearance do you have for the prop?

&nbs= p;

Bill=

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Fr= om:=20 Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancair= online.net]=20
Sent: Thursday,= July 21,=20 2016 9:31 AM
To:= =20 Rotary motors in=20 aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: How= do you=20 run these things????

 

 

 

Thanks= all, for=20 the replies,

 

I can ro= tate a=20 little more easily now.

 

Because= I am a=20 pusher (that doesn't sound exactly right) My in-cabin noise may be= less=20 than with a tractor, and because the aircraft is glass perhaps it wi= ll be=20 a little quieter. In any case, because I am a little (?) older I may= not=20 hear the noise as acutely as younger eared=20 people.

 

So I won= 't worry=20 about the throttle setting and keep my TO RPMs at or below the Renes= is=20 recommended stats.

 

That sti= ll=20 leaves the mixture question unleaned.

 

Any thou= ghts of=20 what to do with the mixture????

 

Thanks= =20 again,

 

Rich

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