X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: Received: from omr-m010e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.10] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.11) with ESMTPS id 8812698 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:57:27 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.29.186.10; envelope-from=ARGOLDMAN@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-aac02.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aac02.mx.aol.com [172.27.2.36]) by omr-m010e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id B2F49380007A for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:57:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-abd03e.mail.aol.com (core-abd03.mail.aol.com [172.27.0.13]) by mtaomg-aac02.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 7336438000081 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:57:09 -0400 (EDT) Full-name: ARGOLDMAN Message-ID: <4e0c36.2bfadac9.44c266f5@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 13:57:09 -0400 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] How do you run these things?... To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4e0c36.2bfadac9.44c266f5_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.8 sub 2019 X-Originating-IP: [50.151.84.32] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1469123829; bh=jiescw3j56OvmRREmMxpy82kTEdQGtPxFnH/HeSnMU8=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=m6gtuYIK1SBX1c0iSP/j9y0kHNsMZxpiZMhD3/c76jG4lgQukXj/YSsfdv09nLKaT tBo95r5ENlItUcRY9SgA+Y80a+a0dtx0bnNhHULG1ai4dk9k0lE/x+/7COAEsHksOI pQdKCvV2cDk7SRS3dyPFIGWTlm1l/V0ndiNVyWB0= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b022457910cf568f2 --part1_4e0c36.2bfadac9.44c266f5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sounds great Luis Look forward to seeing you Rich In a message dated 7/21/2016 9:44:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: Awesome! I have family in the Chicago area (kids and granddaughter) which I need to visit more often. I'm based out of Rhode Island. Hopefully we can plan a get together on my next trip to CHItown. Luis -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2016 11:52 AM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] How do you run these things?... Greetings Luis, The airframe is an Aerocanard XS. I too am far (about 1 year) from making noise, except for the swearing at myself when I make stupid mistakes in construction. I will, hopefully, rebuild the engine this winter (Chicago area) even though I was told that the engine only had 14K on it before the back end of the car from which it came was mashed. Where you located? Rich In a message dated 7/21/2016 8:08:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: Rich - out of curiosity, what airframe did you build? I have a 20B to be mounted on a Velocity XL but am faaaarrrrr from making noise :( R/ Luis Luciano Velocity XL-5 "Mazda Inside" -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 6:12 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] How do you run these things???? Greetings all, As I approach finishing my aircraft (probably in the next year -- although I have been saying that for the last three years,) my thoughts are moving to how to operate the rotary without damaging it and gear box and achieving the best efficiency/ speed/ power with the above two criteria in mind. My setup is as follows: Normally aspirated Renesis Tracy's EC-3, EM-3 Tracy's RD1-C Ivo Prop with C/S/ attachment Pusher configuration So Mike Bush says the best configuration is to fly with wide open throttle and control power with RPM (lowest possible consistent with smooth running) and LOP Of course this is for cylindered engines. I know that the Otto Cycle is the same for ours and theirs but my question is, from those familiar with the running of these beasts: Do the same parameters hold--- or what is the best way to run the engine. Additionally what is the maximum TO RPM for the Renesis and maximum Cruise RPM, if there is a difference... as well as the parameters in which the engine (of course properly cooled) can be safely run. Thanking you all in advance, Rich --part1_4e0c36.2bfadac9.44c266f5_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Sounds great Luis
 
Look forward to seeing you
 
Rich
 
In a message dated 7/21/2016 9:44:19 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,=20 flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:
Awesome!  I have family in the Chicago area (kids and= =20 granddaughter) which I need to visit more often. I'm based out of Rhode= =20 Island.  Hopefully we can plan a get together on my next trip to=20 CHItown.

Luis

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary= motors=20 in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Thursday, Jul= y 21,=20 2016 11:52 AM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary]= Re:=20 [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] How do you run these things?...

Gree= tings=20 Luis, The airframe is an Aerocanard XS. I too am far (about 1 year) from= =20 making noise, except for the swearing at myself when I make stupid mista= kes in=20 construction. I will, hopefully, rebuild the engine this winter (Chicago= area)=20 even though I was told that the engine only had 14K on it before the bac= k end=20 of the car from which it came was mashed.

Where you=20 located?

Rich

In a message dated 7/21/2016 8:08:18 A.M. Pa= cific=20 Daylight Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:

   = Rich -=20 out of curiosity, what airframe did you build?  I have a 20B to be= =20 mounted on a Velocity XL but am faaaarrrrr from making noise :(
 = ;=20  
    R/
    Luis Luciano
  &nbs= p;=20 Velocity XL-5
    "Mazda Inside"
   
 = ;=20   -----Original Message-----
    From: Rotary motors= in=20 aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
    Sent:=20 Wednesday, July 20, 2016 6:12 PM
    To: Rotary motors in= =20 aircraft
    Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] How do= you run=20 these things????
   
    Greetings all,
&n= bsp;=20  
    As I approach finishing my aircraft (probably= in the=20 next year -- although I have been saying that for the last three years,)= my=20 thoughts are moving to how to operate the rotary without damaging it and= gear=20 box and achieving the best efficiency/ speed/ power  with the above= two=20 criteria in mind.
   
    My setup is as=20 follows:
   
    Normally aspirated=20 Renesis
    Tracy's EC-3, EM-3
    Tracy's=20 RD1-C
    Ivo Prop with C/S/ attachment
    Pu= sher=20 configuration
   
    So  Mike Bush says= the=20 best configuration is to fly with wide open throttle and control power= with=20 RPM (lowest possible consistent with smooth running) and LOP
 =  =20
    Of course this is for cylindered engines.
  &n= bsp;=20
    I know that the Otto Cycle is the same for ours and th= eirs=20 but my question is, from those familiar with the running of these=20 beasts:
   
    Do the same parameters hold--= - or=20 what is the best way to run the engine.
   
  &nbs= p;=20 Additionally what is the maximum TO RPM for the Renesis and maximum Crui= se=20 RPM, if there is a difference... as well as the parameters in which the= engine=20 (of course properly cooled) can be safely run.
   
&nbs= p;=20   Thanking you all in advance,
   
   = =20 Rich
   

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