X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: Received: from omr-m006e.mx.aol.com ([204.29.186.6] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.11) with ESMTPS id 8812487 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:51:54 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=204.29.186.6; envelope-from=ARGOLDMAN@aol.com Received: from mtaomg-aal01.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-aal01.mx.aol.com [172.27.20.207]) by omr-m006e.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 6B33238000EA for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-abd03e.mail.aol.com (core-abd03.mail.aol.com [172.27.0.13]) by mtaomg-aal01.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 3561738000081 for ; Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:51:38 -0400 (EDT) Full-name: ARGOLDMAN Message-ID: <4db884.715dd6b9.44c24989@aol.com> Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 11:51:38 -0400 Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] How do you run these things?... To: flyrotary@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="part1_4db884.715dd6b9.44c24989_boundary" X-Mailer: AOL 9.8 sub 2019 X-Originating-IP: [50.151.84.32] x-aol-global-disposition: G DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20150623; t=1469116298; bh=zdv+DlIs9F9JFh3UXAI0uzqwW21zSEB5mfT7Ty+RSJM=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=l/5MMEHBzuLqHfri/HuTGWpNuJtXYALQwx+WnAWpqTg3fDI3O83qRezvzKMyljPiH Q+3m6eS/vuqb2E72mu21NKiakXNKGLynUYlC0yQn/DyiXoy8IKGKksd9kTy9eRCsQ1 xDiyXskew+FvX+jt2hs2WkatZcxEn8mKo5R2fYaE= x-aol-sid: 3039ac1b14cf5790ef8a1df4 --part1_4db884.715dd6b9.44c24989_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Greetings Luis, The airframe is an Aerocanard XS. I too am far (about 1 year) from making noise, except for the swearing at myself when I make stupid mistakes in construction. I will, hopefully, rebuild the engine this winter (Chicago area) even though I was told that the engine only had 14K on it before the back end of the car from which it came was mashed. Where you located? Rich In a message dated 7/21/2016 8:08:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes: Rich - out of curiosity, what airframe did you build? I have a 20B to be mounted on a Velocity XL but am faaaarrrrr from making noise :( R/ Luis Luciano Velocity XL-5 "Mazda Inside" -----Original Message----- From: Rotary motors in aircraft [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net] Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016 6:12 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRotary] How do you run these things???? Greetings all, As I approach finishing my aircraft (probably in the next year -- although I have been saying that for the last three years,) my thoughts are moving to how to operate the rotary without damaging it and gear box and achieving the best efficiency/ speed/ power with the above two criteria in mind. My setup is as follows: Normally aspirated Renesis Tracy's EC-3, EM-3 Tracy's RD1-C Ivo Prop with C/S/ attachment Pusher configuration So Mike Bush says the best configuration is to fly with wide open throttle and control power with RPM (lowest possible consistent with smooth running) and LOP Of course this is for cylindered engines. I know that the Otto Cycle is the same for ours and theirs but my question is, from those familiar with the running of these beasts: Do the same parameters hold--- or what is the best way to run the engine. Additionally what is the maximum TO RPM for the Renesis and maximum Cruise RPM, if there is a difference... as well as the parameters in which the engine (of course properly cooled) can be safely run. Thanking you all in advance, Rich --part1_4db884.715dd6b9.44c24989_boundary Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Greetings Luis, The airframe is an Aerocanard XS. I too am far (about= 1=20 year) from making noise, except for the swearing at myself when I make stu= pid=20 mistakes in construction. I will, hopefully, rebuild the engine this winte= r=20 (Chicago area) even though I was told that the engine only had 14K on= it=20 before the back end of the car from which it came was mashed.
 
Where you located?
 
Rich
 
In a message dated 7/21/2016 8:08:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,=20 flyrotary@lancaironline.net writes:
Rich -=20 out of curiosity, what airframe did you build?  I have a 20B to be= =20 mounted on a Velocity XL but am faaaarrrrr from making noise=20 :(

R/
Luis Luciano
Velocity XL-5
"Mazda=20 Inside"

-----Original Message-----
From: Rotary motors in airc= raft=20 [mailto:flyrotary@lancaironline.net]
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2016= 6:12=20 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [Non-DoD Source] [FlyRot= ary]=20 How do you run these things????

Greetings all,

As I approa= ch=20 finishing my aircraft (probably in the next year -- although I have been= =20 saying that for the last three years,) my thoughts are moving to how to= =20 operate the rotary without damaging it and gear box and achieving the be= st=20 efficiency/ speed/ power  with the above two criteria in mind.
<= BR>My=20 setup is as follows:

Normally aspirated Renesis
Tracy's EC-3,= =20 EM-3
Tracy's RD1-C
Ivo Prop with C/S/ attachment
Pusher=20 configuration

So  Mike Bush says the best configuration is= to fly=20 with wide open throttle and control power with RPM (lowest possible cons= istent=20 with smooth running) and LOP

Of course this is for cylindered=20 engines.

I know that the Otto Cycle is the same for ours and thei= rs but=20 my question is, from those familiar with the running of these=20 beasts:

Do the same parameters hold--- or what is the best way to= run=20 the engine.

Additionally what is the maximum TO RPM for the Renes= is and=20 maximum Cruise RPM, if there is a difference... as well as the parameter= s in=20 which the engine (of course properly cooled) can be safely=20 run.

Thanking you all in=20 advance,

Rich
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