X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Andrew Martin" Received: from mail-yw0-f182.google.com ([209.85.161.182] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.11) with ESMTPS id 8811275 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 19:19:06 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.161.182; envelope-from=andrew@martinag.com.au Received: by mail-yw0-f182.google.com with SMTP id z8so37658858ywa.1 for ; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:19:07 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=martinag-com-au.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=i4PvISCNvXmaisaF7rdfMJLyndQMWioLKR2CpqocxwU=; b=JeExg5LpAAJnVp5NtKYsBYakodE0gskNIjPwLEPKWjGug7vSXMPnfL/eH0aH1aICuc I82v7Wr2tHLq4SQ7Kr8z2t6VJaFET/F8oVIr9a57ffEEvmP4X1zKIVnkq2ooV1CzNzYN mSfwGEeXnOQZIjZCmCzHcSpuqPpwV58fwmgYaAdcYXqpgnc4Vcq6xUH6NcOqoNyXud/t lCEr3ztICXaFSLj5/QoaHbHCzLn8/ApBUAXT/rj/0EZ9NT/D1xbbRf+AMM8hN5tGC2XJ ViQZIOZ9+DdPi7Bj+F7pBY5xBpDYLKHC+mmkrhYzRlZj1I28aQYfDdermvMbuXieUXGb GQuw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=i4PvISCNvXmaisaF7rdfMJLyndQMWioLKR2CpqocxwU=; b=VpHGjWqgMgtQoQGt44iCbm9+KXdyALUoA4xGjvNjck8pZGiU9UV+l6nlCjxe7lshfQ GADCZPFS4Okjwt7dwosmlFlyvmXu2dR9n6YO/ELWsQkFbmr/bbhehm4YDPOh3qcNHZh0 iaqYCjL7KeZpOsVa/l05jWxv5LZLXjrQVB5yDBZXQ3hp79AzhW4oHYGxdqG23uK/2fSN TJDc32B9E6UU+l2s8xQuLH9tY511fXrIn1ZxGobTiPk8IUxmQywYke3TxIszz9exPBw9 dkw5eoOSNlvgtknHGsCn58My5pZjRtMywumk8EgaqA7wpuxlh2AAx7bAJ53LOJZsYp42 v8yg== X-Gm-Message-State: ALyK8tJ0C8feycGxOM9k4L/tETYAdvhBa3FXYbcYdmCNuFyZTsArGdBNyvL50hgKH8c+mtO4l9EcbBx8CJGPLA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.129.128.1 with SMTP id q1mr34216043ywf.290.1469056729230; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:18:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.83.13.136 with HTTP; Wed, 20 Jul 2016 16:18:49 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [202.40.0.40] In-Reply-To: References: Date: Thu, 21 Jul 2016 07:18:49 +0800 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] How do you run these things???? To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c034e848064730538196c2e --94eb2c034e848064730538196c2e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Rich. I think you got some loaded questions there. Best power/speed is a combination of factors involving engine, prop, airframe, weight, ego, wallet etc. For maximum TO/ cruize etc. same applies but your nerves, wallet & cooling are probably the limiting factors. I have a quadrant with 2 levers, 1 marked noise, 1 rpm, I find it best to have noise set at loud for takeoff & rpm at fast. For cruize noise at not so loud & rpm at slow. Landing, noise at less, rpm fast. Seriously, You'll work out your best settings when flying off your initial hours. Andrew Lightwing sp4000 Renesis rd1c ec2 em2 GT electric cs. On Thursday, 21 July 2016, ARGOLDMAN wrote: > Greetings all, > > As I approach finishing my aircraft (probably in the next year -- although > I have been saying that for the last three years,) my thoughts are moving > to how to operate the rotary without damaging it and gear box and achieving > the best efficiency/ speed/ power with the above two criteria in mind. > > My setup is as follows: > > Normally aspirated Renesis > Tracy's EC-3, EM-3 > Tracy's RD1-C > Ivo Prop with C/S/ attachment > Pusher configuration > > So Mike Bush says the best configuration is to fly with wide open > throttle and control power with RPM (lowest possible consistent with smooth > running) and LOP > > Of course this is for cylindered engines. > > I know that the Otto Cycle is the same for ours and theirs but my question > is, from those familiar with the running of these beasts: > > Do the same parameters hold--- or what is the best way to run the engine. > > Additionally what is the maximum TO RPM for the Renesis and maximum Cruise > RPM, if there is a difference... as well as the parameters in which the > engine (of course properly cooled) can be safely run. > > Thanking you all in advance, > > Rich > -- Regards Andrew Martin Martin Ag --94eb2c034e848064730538196c2e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rich.
I think you got some loaded questions there.
Best power= /speed is a combination of factors involving engine, prop, airframe, weight= , ego, wallet=C2=A0etc.

For maximum TO/ cruize etc= . same applies but your nerves,=C2=A0wallet & cooling=C2=A0are probably= the limiting factors.

I have a quadrant with 2 le= vers, 1 marked noise, 1 rpm, I find it best to have noise set at loud=C2=A0= for takeoff & rpm at fast. For cruize noise at not so loud=C2=A0& r= pm at slow. Landing,=C2=A0noise at less, rpm fast.

Seriously,=C2=A0You'll work out your best settings=C2=A0when flying of= f your initial hours.

Andrew
Lightwing s= p4000
Renesis rd1c ec2 em2
GT=C2=A0electric cs.

= On Thursday, 21 July 2016, ARGOLDMAN <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:
Greetings all,
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As I approach finishing my aircraft (probably in the next year -- alth= ough=20 I have been saying that for the last three years,) my thoughts are moving t= o how=20 to operate the rotary without damaging it and gear box and achieving the be= st=20 efficiency/ speed/ power=C2=A0 with the above two criteria in mind.
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My setup is as follows:
=C2=A0
Normally aspirated Renesis
Tracy's EC-3, EM-3
Tracy's RD1-C
Ivo Prop with C/S/ attachment
Pusher configuration
=C2=A0
So=C2=A0 Mike Bush says the best configuration is to fly with wide ope= n=20 throttle and control power with RPM (lowest possible consistent with smooth= =20 running) and LOP
=C2=A0
Of course this is for cylindered engines.
=C2=A0
I know that the Otto Cycle is the same for ours and theirs but my ques= tion=20 is, from those familiar with the running of these beasts:
=C2=A0
Do the same=C2=A0parameters hold--- or what is the best way to run the= =20 engine.
=C2=A0
Additionally what is the maximum TO RPM for the Renesis and maximum Cr= uise=20 RPM, if there is a difference... as well as=C2=A0the=C2=A0parameters in whi= ch=20 the engine (of course properly cooled) can be safely run.
=C2=A0
Thanking you all in advance,
=C2=A0
Rich


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Regards
An= drew Martin
Martin Ag
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