X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "steve Izett" Received: from mail-pf0-f178.google.com ([209.85.192.178] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.8) with ESMTPS id 8352967 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 03:33:36 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.192.178; envelope-from=steveize@gmail.com Received: by mail-pf0-f178.google.com with SMTP id q63so80746230pfb.1 for ; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 00:33:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=from:content-type:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:references :to:in-reply-to; bh=QvYJsxngrQ9qY3GZq6OlAaQeSRQ/dMzoLChzDCK5QiI=; b=OxMHhJhvgHJKzdHhduuMs9ukH2JKy3NWeS9EvLMCXlaMmlYOhELzwqwtx6sKdT58Dw Ocq1usE5uVFbuJmfvV7t6Qw/KidmzrLFEeGz+0zEb37cph7URiwEaziWzzDEI96pnCIl IYF7Wu/zSpDQWrdKbpjdd0DjFhE2gJP0FzVQwrPDujOcpPzKxHwepgx5pIqecixQ3nR+ PH8eVQwK9sEkvBAxSgjkN5rdvx0ddJQE9lprTbBO63RYkZFOKdmTYGqXxHO0elGy/bqD QcrIaBIKAAzvPznmVyM53Lu/BQphR9wJvJ90MdTEirHvFulowukaFmhXUtc4NxN6Z71v msTg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:from:content-type:message-id:mime-version :subject:date:references:to:in-reply-to; bh=QvYJsxngrQ9qY3GZq6OlAaQeSRQ/dMzoLChzDCK5QiI=; b=BDg0CzNgDqr3SPEa6kY1N9lrXq5TGA+49z19Rbunxdco3mEGCJ0pZX77H6wCckWovh erLANLuVlOIpoeVd9hydZQRXM+plPiniuuznXbXOuVHEpR3UZcxCO4euEct+EJgHug5i xdL9Z+x1aeY+2oRMfJdLcXQKCds29LcOCAJHINo/uxktz4d3u6H76bfKzI5oUXFcZr2i 0rVXYr+VWphTJsSwZwXqgVczTroIRbkBKCQcPbIZGuLvgYqYtVmK6IiQ0ovnNmMrH7S4 EYsjpqfayH9RGCIP3eghK54I9jrffx/VYNPcmsg7YuQ/TpYbSWicxo8bQphM0djlfWBh 5Q/w== X-Gm-Message-State: AG10YOTaJRrWrweV0V7xEqGyggrc6aUHyd80TDJva2dBN/ojXKnI01XfvgL0rSEHdWuhFw== X-Received: by 10.98.19.28 with SMTP id b28mr24004849pfj.59.1453710797518; Mon, 25 Jan 2016 00:33:17 -0800 (PST) Return-Path: Received: from [10.1.1.5] (106-68-179-139.dyn.iinet.net.au. [106.68.179.139]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id m70sm26502243pfi.90.2016.01.25.00.33.14 for (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 25 Jan 2016 00:33:16 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_A6FE1DE2-10EB-4FC3-A480-E1ABF8E873D6" Message-Id: <93D56F72-0F78-46D7-9335-6181C8C7C1CF@gmail.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be happening? Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2016 16:33:07 +0800 References: To: Rotary motors in aircraft In-Reply-To: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) --Apple-Mail=_A6FE1DE2-10EB-4FC3-A480-E1ABF8E873D6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cant find photos sorry. I know the Water Heat Exchanger was 21" x 8=E2=80=9D ~375in3 under the = engine on one side in a =E2=80=98V=E2=80=99 configuration in I think a = James cowl. My understanding was that it ran hot. And due to the intake manifold (6 = port Renesis cut off short) it would have not developed above ~150hp Steve Izett . on low horsepower due=20 > On 25 Jan 2016, at 3:57 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald = wrote: >=20 > G'day all > Just wondering if anyone has picks of the cooling on Ian's plane , for = comparison >=20 > Cheers > Have missed the post somewhere=20 >=20 > On Monday, January 25, 2016, Steven W. Boese = > = wrote: > Bill, >=20 >=20 > Are the primary and secondary injectors the same flow rating? If not = how different are they? >=20 >=20 > Did you get the signal recording setup working? That would tell you = what is going on. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Steve Boese > RV6A, 1986 13B NA, RD1A, EC2 >=20 >=20 > From: Rotary motors in aircraft > on behalf = of Bill Bradburry > > Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 10:43 PM > To: Rotary motors in aircraft > Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: parts upgrade; was: What do you think may be = happening? > =20 > I was afraid this would happen=E2=80=A6 > =20 > I got the new injector disable switches replaced today and while I was = replacing them, I verified that both primary and secondary switches take = pin 30 on the EC-2 to ground, so my wiring now seems to be correct. > But unfortunately I also verified that the cold start action does not = turn on both sets of injectors. My engine operates as I described and = not as Tracy says it should. > =20 > With the engine idling at about 1400 rpm, and the mixture at about = 14.7, I turned off the secondary and the engine ran a little differently = and the mixture went to about 13.0. When I turned off the primary, the = engine died unless I immediately turned it back on. I normally shut the = engine down by first turning off the power to the injectors and that is = just the way it acts. > =20 > I then ran the engine up to 22 inches and turned the primary off and = the engine ran just a little differently but made no effort to shut = down. I don=E2=80=99t have much in the way of readings yet at that = power because it is too hard to hold the plane with just brakes. > =20 > Apparently the cold start system in my EC-2 is not working the way it = should. I need to get this repaired but with Tracy out of commission, I = don=E2=80=99t know how to affect that. I suppose it is not too much of = an emergency because this has been going on for a long time. :>( > =20 > I will try to get some better data by coarsening the prop so I can = hold it better. I just need to get it above 20 inches and 4000 rpm to = get it into that range and hold it for at least a takeoff amount of = time. > =20 > Any ideas on how to get the EM-2 repaired? How long will Tracy be = impaired? > =20 > Bill --Apple-Mail=_A6FE1DE2-10EB-4FC3-A480-E1ABF8E873D6 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Cant find photos sorry.
I know the Water Heat = Exchanger was 21" x 8=E2=80=9D ~375in3 under the engine on one side in a = =E2=80=98V=E2=80=99 configuration in I think a James cowl.
My understanding was that it ran hot. And due to the intake = manifold (6 port Renesis cut off short) it would have not developed = above ~150hp

Steve Izett
.
 on low horsepower due 

On = 25 Jan 2016, at 3:57 PM, Christian And Tamara Mcdonald <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

G'day all
Just wondering if anyone has picks of the cooling on Ian's = plane , for comparison

Cheers
Have missed the post = somewhere 

On Monday, January 25, = 2016, Steven W. Boese <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Bill,


Are the primary and secondary injectors the same flow = rating?  If not how different are they?


Did you get the signal recording setup working?  = That would tell you what is going on.



Steve = Boese
RV6A, 1986 = 13B NA, RD1A, EC2


From: Rotary = motors in aircraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> on = behalf of Bill Bradburry <flyrotary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Sunday, January 24, 2016 10:43 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: parts upgrade; was: What do = you think may be happening?
 
I was = afraid this would happen=E2=80=A6

 

I got = the new injector disable switches replaced today and while I was = replacing them, I verified that both primary and secondary switches take = pin 30 on the EC-2 to ground, so my wiring now seems to be = correct.
But = unfortunately I also verified that the cold start action does not turn = on both sets of injectors.  My engine operates as I described and = not as Tracy says it should.

 

With = the engine idling at about 1400 rpm, and the mixture at about 14.7, I = turned off the secondary and the engine ran a little differently and the = mixture went to about 13.0.  When I turned off the primary, the engine = died unless I immediately turned it back on.  I normally shut the = engine down by first turning off the power to the injectors and that is = just the way it acts.

 

I then = ran the engine up to 22 inches and turned the primary off and the engine = ran just a little differently but made no effort to shut down.  I = don=E2=80=99t have much in the way of readings yet at that power because it is too = hard to hold the plane with just brakes.

 

Apparently the cold start system in my EC-2 is not working = the way it should.  I need to get this repaired but with Tracy out = of commission, I don=E2=80=99t know how to affect that.  I suppose it is not too much of an emergency = because this has been going on for a long time.  = :>(

 

I will = try to get some better data by coarsening the prop so I can hold it = better.  I just need to get it above 20 inches and 4000 rpm to get = it into that range and hold it for at least a takeoff amount of = time.

 

Any = ideas on how to get the EM-2 repaired?  How long will Tracy be = impaired?

 

Bill

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