X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Steven W. Boese" Received: from [65.55.169.129] (HELO na01-bl2-obe.outbound.protection.outlook.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.8) with ESMTPS id 8309854 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Thu, 07 Jan 2016 13:05:50 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.55.169.129; envelope-from=SBoese@uwyo.edu Received: from CY1PR0501MB1147.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.160.144.153) by CY1PR0501MB1147.namprd05.prod.outlook.com (10.160.144.153) with Microsoft SMTP Server (TLS) id 15.1.361.13; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 18:05:31 +0000 Received: from CY1PR0501MB1147.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.160.144.153]) by CY1PR0501MB1147.namprd05.prod.outlook.com ([10.160.144.153]) with mapi id 15.01.0361.006; Thu, 7 Jan 2016 18:05:31 +0000 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: Tuning Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: Tuning Thread-Index: AQHRSEJPYJvNT5asjESD5p5UMPTb1p7wWT8V Date: Thu, 7 Jan 2016 18:05:30 +0000 Message-ID: References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: authentication-results: spf=none (sender IP is ) smtp.mailfrom=SBoese@uwyo.edu; x-originating-ip: [69.146.103.188] x-microsoft-exchange-diagnostics: 1;CY1PR0501MB1147;5:Ml78Sd1hg3uUvrg8UuYgYDnr+yt2/bTt8rgK5Cuy8AymoAqObMw2ZRGbHxoLbVu9lxib45QeZxu/IjHKS95LiB5yWdzz/ye76S7sxwLthrhlpwgK7dLKskzzGEyc2L1TWbI1rIg+ICR5Boil2GApPw==;24:nsrgEgLO/M+24CYFbbWWDEzmx5ZuC0DGqhoiWMPLoNDRSBgoQBTtQ7qlaYP3ZFbEkmySS3KCe3eVXgJKBWjKzWC+H1ZWYSUsFbSHfOf66y8= x-microsoft-antispam: UriScan:;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CY1PR0501MB1147; x-ms-office365-filtering-correlation-id: 3c9f8b09-8d5a-41fc-0d71-08d3178d2191 x-microsoft-antispam-prvs: x-exchange-antispam-report-test: UriScan:; x-exchange-antispam-report-cfa-test: BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:(601004)(2401047)(520078)(5005006)(8121501046)(10201501046)(3002001);SRVR:CY1PR0501MB1147;BCL:0;PCL:0;RULEID:;SRVR:CY1PR0501MB1147; x-forefront-prvs: 0814A2C7A3 x-forefront-antispam-report: SFV:NSPM;SFS:(10019020)(6009001)(377454003)(199003)(189002)(92566002)(2950100001)(5003600100002)(50986999)(2900100001)(107886002)(77096005)(11100500001)(97736004)(101416001)(40100003)(189998001)(16236675004)(54356999)(110136002)(5001960100002)(81156007)(76176999)(5004730100002)(87936001)(19627405001)(19625215002)(19580405001)(66066001)(5002640100001)(89122001)(450100001)(19580395003)(33656002)(75432002)(90282001)(106356001)(106116001)(105586002)(10400500002)(74316001)(86362001)(122556002)(99286002)(6116002)(102836003)(88552001)(3846002)(586003)(80792005)(1220700001)(5008740100001)(76576001)(2906002)(1096002);DIR:OUT;SFP:1102;SCL:1;SRVR:CY1PR0501MB1147;H:CY1PR0501MB1147.namprd05.prod.outlook.com;FPR:;SPF:None;PTR:InfoNoRecords;A:1;MX:1;LANG:en; received-spf: None (protection.outlook.com: uwyo.edu does not designate permitted sender hosts) spamdiagnosticoutput: 1:23 spamdiagnosticmetadata: NSPM Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_CY1PR0501MB114759366037B97D7524C3D6B9F50CY1PR0501MB1147_" MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginatorOrg: uwyo.edu X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-originalarrivaltime: 07 Jan 2016 18:05:30.8182 (UTC) X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-fromentityheader: Hosted X-MS-Exchange-CrossTenant-id: f9cdd7ad-825d-4601-8e9c-a325e02d52da X-MS-Exchange-Transport-CrossTenantHeadersStamped: CY1PR0501MB1147 --_000_CY1PR0501MB114759366037B97D7524C3D6B9F50CY1PR0501MB1147_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable When using stock spark plugs, I would get 15 to 20 hours of use before enco= untering SAG. With BR10 EIX spark plugs in both leading and trailing locat= ions, I did not have any problems for 180 hours. I don't know how long the= y would have gone since they were changed simply due to the gap widening as= the electrodes became worn. They were still working fine when removed. N= o leaded fuel was used. Steve Boese RV6A, 1986 13B NA, RD1A, EC2 ________________________________ From: Rotary motors in aircraft on behalf of = Lehanover Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:22 PM To: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tuning Try this: Gap the plugs down to .010". I used a MSD-6A on both leading and trailing. = No misses up to 9,600 RPM. For 100% duty cycle 11.5 is the heat range you want. 9s and 10s are too hot= . There is an Autolite plug about the 10 heat range but I am in Florida and all of my data in Hebron Oh= io. The NGK 11.5 plugs are $25.00 each and are retracted tip side electrode= . Can be gapped and are ice cold. A 12.7 mixture should get you 1575 to 160= 0 EGTs. Once on top, lean to stumble of slight sag then back rich a bit for= economy, or lean to best RPM for best power. Best timing is 25 to 27 degre= es BTDC for higher octanes. Lower octane fuel works better than higher octa= ne fuel. In that case 22 to 24 degrees. The rotary needs little advance as = there is a long dwell near TDC. The timing marks on the crank are moving 3 = times faster than the rotor. IE 30 degrees on the pulley is 10 degrees at t= he rotor. The timing marks can be added to the front pulley or to the flywheel teeth.= Often the flywheel is better. Divide the flywheel tooth count by 360 to ge= t the degrees per tooth. Find TDC. Mark a flexplate (or flywheel) tooth nex= t to your new rigid pointer with red paint (for TDC). Then turn the engine = backwards the correct number of teeth to find the advance number you want t= o run. Mark that tooth or valley between teeth with white paint right next= to your pointer. No curve, advance weights or vacuum anything is required = as the engine will start and idle at full advance. Now you can set your tim= ing dead on and it is easy to see and check from time to time. No tuning is= possible without the correct timing to begin with. Both leading and trailing may be fired at once. The split timing is mostly = for pollution control. It has very little affect at speed. Lynn E. Hanover --_000_CY1PR0501MB114759366037B97D7524C3D6B9F50CY1PR0501MB1147_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

When using stock spark plugs, I would get 15 to 20 hours of use before e= ncountering SAG.  With BR10 EIX spark plugs in both leading and traili= ng locations, I did not have any problems for 180 hours.  I don't know= how long they would have gone since they were changed simply due to the gap widening as the electrodes became worn.=   They were still working fine when removed.  No leaded fuel was = used. 


Steve Boese
RV6A, 1986 13B NA, RD1A, EC2



From: Rotary motors in ai= rcraft <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> on behalf of Lehanover <flyro= tary@lancaironline.net>
Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 10:22 PM
To: Rotary motors in aircraft
Subject: [FlyRotary] Re: Tuning
 
Try this:
 
Gap the plugs down to .010". I used a MSD-6A on both leading and = trailing. No misses up to 9,600 RPM.
 
For 100% duty cycle 11.5 is the heat range you want. 9s and 10s are to= o hot. There is an Autolite plug
 
about the 10 heat range but I am in Florida and all of my data in = ;Hebron Ohio. The NGK 11.5 plugs are $25.00 each and are retracted tip side= electrode. Can be gapped and are ice cold. A 12.7 mixture should get you 1= 575 to 1600 EGTs. Once on top, lean to stumble of slight sag then back rich a bit for economy, or lean to best RP= M for best power. Best timing is 25 to 27 degrees BTDC for higher octa= nes. Lower octane fuel works better than higher octane fuel. In that case 2= 2 to 24 degrees. The rotary needs little advance as there is a long dwell near TDC. The timing marks on the crank a= re moving 3 times faster than the rotor. IE 30 degrees on the pulley is 10 = degrees at the rotor.
 
The timing marks can be added to the front pulley or to the flywheel t= eeth. Often the flywheel is better. Divide the flywheel tooth count by 360 = to get the degrees per tooth. Find TDC. Mark a flexplate (or flywheel) toot= h next to your new rigid pointer with red paint (for TDC). Then turn the engine backwards the correct numbe= r of teeth to find the advance number you want to run. Mark that tooth or v= alley between teeth with white paint  right next to your pointer. = ;No curve, advance weights or vacuum anything is required as the engine will start and idle at full advance. Now yo= u can set your timing dead on and it is easy to see and check from time to = time. No tuning is possible without the correct timing to begin with.
 
Both leading and trailing may be fired at once. The split timing is mo= stly for pollution control. It has very little affect at speed.
 
Lynn E. Hanover
 
   
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