X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com From: "Mark Steitle" Received: from mail-ob0-f175.google.com ([209.85.214.175] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.1.2) with ESMTPS id 7738978 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 18:13:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.214.175; envelope-from=msdstx@gmail.com Received: by obbir4 with SMTP id ir4so44038797obb.1 for ; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 15:13:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:references:from:content-type:in-reply-to:message-id:date:to :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version; bh=eoTr0pGXHRDGr8FY2q0sBBS3Wjfx1QzQpU4qwMEjwA0=; b=h0RFfzT2u+MEDclWpSGJV9YtUzGk8SibBeq3ViRqnIa//19RZdUddOhHbGtKWbL+CY jRw7ET57bx5HS2PC7xBCAbxFaRAipjTcPzrn49W8Cydqh49btgZY6bPFBT8Z+JBYndcW 8km2gBLP64ZOLPqhhWV67ADRV5btCJOsEYFqbrAQCUk/VsMyhzuUtvJfMz8P5PXesAvN 02Lmp2pczW0acfAlymBDMi8iGh0jr1sG7YDbp7jods9a38EfU7NHk48zvI+6tVtHhNLv 9aK+eZgfM+dusD2ifkKxad5ypMfPIATn/dKg8DZYPvRpfV5EaJtqPqWBxPyliIN3PPR5 og4Q== X-Received: by 10.182.43.133 with SMTP id w5mr11941162obl.65.1433715180234; Sun, 07 Jun 2015 15:13:00 -0700 (PDT) Return-Path: Received: from ?IPv6:2602:306:807d:ec60:8062:b551:fd8b:955b? ([2602:306:807d:ec60:8062:b551:fd8b:955b]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id t20sm586653oie.22.2015.06.07.15.12.58 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 07 Jun 2015 15:12:59 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] new operating question References: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-41425976-3F69-4384-A1CF-1284760FD8E5 X-Mailer: iPad Mail (12F69) In-Reply-To: Message-Id: Date: Sun, 7 Jun 2015 17:12:57 -0500 To: Rotary motors in aircraft Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) --Apple-Mail-41425976-3F69-4384-A1CF-1284760FD8E5 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Rich, I've been running a constant speed M/T on my. 3-rotor for years now. I typic= ally adjust prop rpm for a max of 7k rpm for takeoff, WOT. Once a climb has= been established I bring the rpm down to around 6k for the remainder of cli= mb. For cruise, I leave throttle set to WOT, but set rpm via prop setting to= give 5100 rpm. For sightseeing flights, I'll back off the throttle to give= around 150 kts.=20 Mark Sent from my iPad > On Jun 7, 2015, at 9:33 AM, ARGOLDMAN wrote:= >=20 > Greetings genlepeople of the rotary pursuasion, > =20 > For those of you using variable pitch (C/S) props, an operating question t= hat has been bugging me. Perhaps the collective wisdom of this group can set= my mind at rest. > =20 > In piston aircraft engines, the concept of running over squared MP vs RPM= has been heavily questioned to the extent that some suggest running at full= throttle all the time and controlling the power output via RPM (within reas= on). The thought is to, I believe, eliminate the induction restriction of th= e butterfly valve increasing the efficiency. > =20 > Now we have a rotor spinning, a gear box gearing and a propeller propellin= g. Does this concept hold true for the rotaries. What are people doing in te= rms of setting power after take off (full throttle max RPM). > =20 > My enquiring and rotating mind wants to know.=20 > =20 > (Unturbocharged Renesis with RD1-c Box) > =20 > Thanks > =20 > Rich --Apple-Mail-41425976-3F69-4384-A1CF-1284760FD8E5 Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Rich,
I've been running a constant speed M/T on my. 3-rotor for years now. I typically adjust prop rpm for a max of 7k rpm for takeoff, WOT.  Once a climb has been established I bring the rpm down to around 6k for the remainder of climb. For cruise, I leave throttle set to WOT, but set rpm via prop setting to give 5100 rpm.  For sightseeing flights, I'll back off the throttle to give around 150 kts. 

Mark

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On Jun 7, 2015, at 9:33 AM, ARGOLDMAN <flyrotary@lancaironline.net> wrote:

Greetings genlepeople of the rotary pursuasion,
 
For those of you using variable pitch (C/S) props, an operating question that has been bugging me. Perhaps the collective wisdom of this group can set my mind at rest.
 
In piston aircraft engines, the concept of running over squared  MP vs RPM has been heavily questioned to the extent that some suggest running at full throttle all the time and controlling the power output via RPM (within reason). The thought is to, I believe, eliminate the induction restriction of the butterfly valve increasing the efficiency.
 
Now we have a rotor spinning, a gear box gearing and a propeller propelling. Does this concept hold true for the rotaries. What are people doing in terms of setting power after take off (full throttle max RPM).
 
My enquiring and rotating mind wants to know. 
 
(Unturbocharged Renesis with RD1-c Box)
 
Thanks
 
Rich
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