X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from securemail.ever-tek.com ([64.129.170.194] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 6.0.7) with ESMTP id 6620399 for flyrotary@lancaironline.net; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 17:24:10 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.129.170.194; envelope-from=cbarber@texasattorney.net Received: from FCD-MAIL06.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([fe80::697f:d6aa:b87:78d8]) by FCD-MAIL05.FCDATA.PRIVATE ([fe80::809d:a06e:5913:452e%13]) with mapi id 14.03.0158.001; Sat, 30 Nov 2013 16:21:48 -0600 From: Chris Barber To: Rotary motors in aircraft CC: Rotary motors in aircraft Subject: Re: [FlyRotary] Re: PCM for EC2 Thread-Topic: [FlyRotary] Re: PCM for EC2 Thread-Index: AQHO7ee9IYOypnk+v06FAOOw79vfnpo+Wcdf Date: Sat, 30 Nov 2013 22:24:51 +0000 Message-ID: <0F825DC3-F7CB-48D0-8779-6BC595A17709@texasattorney.net> References: In-Reply-To: Accept-Language: en-US Content-Language: en-US X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_000_0F825DC3F7CB48D087796BC595A17709texasattorneynet_" MIME-Version: 1.0 --_000_0F825DC3F7CB48D087796BC595A17709texasattorneynet_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, it's back together. Seems the problem was what the good folks at Mazda= trix felt was the least likely reason (they have always been helpful). My r= ear stationary bearing was TRASHED. I have torn the engine down, verified= tolerances, replaced a couple of stuck side seals, and two apex seals that= were slightly questionable in the rear housing. After not being satisfied with the adding more oil "solution" I said screw = it.....or something similar, and just tore it down. I've said it before, an= d it is more so now, the idea of opening up the engine is easier each time.= Perhaps naively so, but each time garners more confidence in ability and u= nderstanding. What seemed tricky and stressful before are now just steps in= the process. Of course it's not lost on me that us have screwed it up befo= re. Any of y'all are welcome to come down and hold my hand as you inspect = my work....ok, no hand holding but I value a visit from one and all. Obviously, the rear bearing (and gear) was replaced new as was the rear rot= or bearing that showed slight wear. The front rotor bearing and front stati= onary gear bearing were fine. Since it was mentioned here, I verified the o= il pickup tube was solid and installed properly as well as my mod to the pe= sky front o-ring. I have been able to clean up the overall install a bit more and am looking = forward to fine tuning now that I have seemingly got the timing to play nic= e. The current issue is that the PCM is not responding as before. It seems to = be related to the program knob. Ill position the knob, press the program bu= tton but don't get a response consistently. The program button seem ok as i= t primes in Mode 0 fine. Also, the mixture knob adjusts the mixture as expe= cted. Chris Sent from my iPhone 5 On Nov 30, 2013, at 10:21, "Mark Steitle" > wrote: Chris, So, I take it you have your engine back together. Did you figure out the c= ause for the low oil pressure? What was the fix? Mark On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Chris Barber > wrote: By any chance does any one out there have an extra PCM (Program Control Mod= ule) for Tracy's EC2 you are willing to part with and sell? I have two, but one is with Tracy for repair (....the program button physic= ally broke on my first PCM, he also has my EM2) and, as luck would have it,= my second one is not responding properly to input from the Program knob. = The program button is ok, as I can prime the engine in Mode 0 fine, but whe= n I try to tune in Mode 1 or 9, moving the knob and pressing the button giv= e me sporadic results. Thanks guys/gals, as I think I have banged out my recent set backs and have= the engine seemingly running properly, sans proper tuning. ......what are the odds??????? Chris Barber Houston 832-818-2355 --_000_0F825DC3F7CB48D087796BC595A17709texasattorneynet_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Yes, it's back together. Seems the problem was what the good folks at = Mazdatrix felt was the least likely reason (they have always been helpful).= My rear stationary bearing was TRASHED.   I have torn the engine down= , verified tolerances, replaced a couple of stuck side seals, and two apex seals that were slightly questionable in= the rear housing. 

After not being satisfied with the adding more oil "solution"= ; I said screw it.....or something similar, and just tore it down. I've sai= d it before, and it is more so now, the idea of opening up the engine is ea= sier each time. Perhaps naively so, but each time garners more confidence in ability and understanding. What seemed tri= cky and stressful before are now just steps in the process. Of course it's = not lost on me that us have screwed it up before.  Any of y'all are we= lcome to come down and hold my hand as you inspect my work....ok, no hand holding but I value a visit from one an= d all. 

Obviously, the rear bearing (and gear) was replaced new as was the rea= r rotor bearing that showed slight wear. The front rotor bearing and front = stationary gear bearing were fine. Since it was mentioned here, I verified = the oil pickup tube was solid and installed properly as well as my mod to the pesky front o-ring. 

I have been able to clean up the overall install a bit more and am loo= king forward to fine tuning now that I have seemingly got the timing to pla= y nice. 

The current issue is that the PCM is not responding as before. It seem= s to be related to the program knob. Ill position the knob, press the progr= am button but don't get a response consistently. The program button seem ok= as it primes in Mode 0 fine. Also, the mixture knob adjusts the mixture as expected. 

Chris

Sent from my iPhone 5

On Nov 30, 2013, at 10:21, "Mark Steitle" <msteitle@gmail.com> wrote:

Chris, 

So, I take it you have your engine back together.  Did you figure out = the cause for the low oil pressure?  What was the fix?

Mark


On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 7:17 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber@= texasattorney.net> wrote:
By any chanc= e does any one out there have an extra PCM (Program Control Module) for Tra= cy's EC2 you are willing to part with and sell?

I have two, but one is with Tracy for repair (....the program button physic= ally broke on my first PCM, he also has my EM2) and, as luck would have it,= my second one is not responding properly to input from the Program knob.&n= bsp; The program button is ok, as I can prime the engine in Mode 0 fine, but when I try to tune in Mode 1 or 9, mo= ving the knob and pressing the button give me sporadic results.

Thanks guys/gals, as I think I have banged out my recent set backs and have= the engine seemingly running properly, sans proper tuning. 

......what are the odds???????

Chris Barber
Houston
8= 32-818-2355

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